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Topic: Modified Byrd Diatonic 10 string tuning |
Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 4:57 am |
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Don't know if anyone has seen this guy (or knows who he is) but some impressive work using a 10 string diatonic tuning (low to high C#, E, F, G, A, B, C, D, E, F.) on an eharp.
Here he is doing Sand with a Monk intro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHcwDldU6xU
Here he is doing Coltrane's Naima https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG4Z_KXtT1c
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James Hartman
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 6:48 am
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I've come across that guy's videos before. Don't know anything about him. Does inspire interest in the diatonic tuning.
Here (according to Mr. Montee) is Jerry using the diatonic tuning (7 or 8 string, I imagine) in a commercial setting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR_op8Eha4E His solo at 1:10. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 6:53 am
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Interesting tuning. I actually woke up in the middle of the night going over it in my head: You have all the diatonic chords and a diminished all in a straight bar.
I notice the guy uses 3 finger picks. and a thumb pick
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Rose D13 tuning: Cabinet by J.R. Rose with mechanics engineered by Darvin Willhoite.
Williams D10 9x9.
Mullen Pre-RP D10 8x5. |
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James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 7:06 am
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
Interesting tuning. I actually woke up in the middle of the night going over it in my head: You have all the diatonic chords and a diminished all in a straight bar.
I notice the guy uses 3 finger picks. and a thumb pick |
As I recall, Alkire advocated using 3 picks as well. Makes sense if you intend playing 7th, 9th, etc. chords that aren't as abbreviated as necessitated by most tunings. |
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Bill McCloskey
From:
Nanuet, NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 8:18 am
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Just bought an eharp for $425 off of reverb so I can give this a whorl.
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Rose D13 tuning: Cabinet by J.R. Rose with mechanics engineered by Darvin Willhoite.
Williams D10 9x9.
Mullen Pre-RP D10 8x5. |
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James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 9:01 am
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
| Just bought an eharp for $425 off of reverb so I can give this a whorl. |
Which model? I have an early Epi eharp, still messing around with the Alkire tuning on mine.
At this rate I'll end up with 3 of them, given the number of 10-string tunings I'd like to explore. I love the recordings Doug B. has posted using an E13 tuning on his. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 9:21 am
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the valco model https://reverb.com/item/6174341-alkire-10-string-eharp-1950-s-black-oyster
Offered the guy $400, he came back with $425 and dropped the shipping to $25. Couldn't pass it up. Looks clean as a whistle.
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Rose D13 tuning: Cabinet by J.R. Rose with mechanics engineered by Darvin Willhoite.
Williams D10 9x9.
Mullen Pre-RP D10 8x5. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Nanuet, NY
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 9:22 am
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Is the Alkire tuning as difficult as they say?
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Rose D13 tuning: Cabinet by J.R. Rose with mechanics engineered by Darvin Willhoite.
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Mullen Pre-RP D10 8x5. |
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James Hartman
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 9:37 am
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Looks nice. Cheers!
As to the Alkire tuning... difficult is relative. It poses the same challenge as the diatonic in the sense of wrong notes available under the bar to easily hit, and I suppose even wrong-er notes, given all the 1/2 steps between strings. But then it offers compensation in easy access to virtually any chord structure. |
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Stefan Robertson
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Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 11:14 am
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Whoever it is they know some theory I'd be surprised if they didn't.
Looks like a good grip based and chord tuning but those arpeggios in the 1st 6 look a little more challenging.
Very similar bottom 6 to the Leavitt tuning and mine. That 9th really opens it up indeed. I like the 11th that is embedded in there as well.
Have a look.
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 17 Jan 2018 1:23 pm
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Byrd used a 7-string C Diatonic (low to Hi): E F G A B C E
Here are some chord forms (for 6 and 7 strings) from the chord chart section of my E-book of C Diatonic arrangements:
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