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Topic: How do you play those 3 and 4 neck consoles? |
Bill McCloskey
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 9:01 am |
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I think Leon played his quad standing up, that helped extend his reach.
That three neck Rick is about the same width as a Fender quad. |
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Brad Davis
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Texas, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 9:10 am
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| I'm very average size and height and I don't have much trouble playing my Fender quad. Granted I don't spend much time on the outermost neck yet, but I don't feel any real discomfort playing any of the necks. I play sitting down, and am more likely to have discomfort just from sitting too long. |
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Bill Sinclair
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Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 9:18 am
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In one of my very favorite youtube videos, Buddy Merrill reaches for neck #4 at 1:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcipRLzk4zM
Like buddy, I expect most quad players have a bass tuning on the outside neck so they generally don't spend much more than a quick chorus "stretching out".
I'm curious as to who besides Eddie Rivers and forum member Jeff Mead actually gigs with a quad these days? |
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Jeff Mead
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London, England
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 9:35 am
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| Bill Sinclair wrote: |
In one of my very favorite youtube videos, Buddy Merrill reaches for neck #4 at 1:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcipRLzk4zM
Like buddy, I expect most quad players have a bass tuning on the outside neck so they generally don't spend much more than a quick chorus "stretching out".
I'm curious as to who besides Eddie Rivers and forum member Jeff Mead actually gigs with a quad these days? |
My mate, Phil Morgan over here in the UK who refinished my quad for me now has a quad of his own which he gigs.
I have fairly short arms, I think, but have never had a problem with it, standing or sitting.
Reach wise, getting to the 4th neck isn't much harder than reaching the third neck on my Custom Triple (because of the big gap between necks 1 and 2).
Weight wise it is lighter than the Fender 1000 D8 pedal I used to own and only slightly heavier than my Custom Triple.
Because the audience mostly sees it head on, most people don't even realise I have a quad  |
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 12:02 pm
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| A D-10 or a pair of 6-strings in a Deluxe34 is a long enough reach for me. I could never play a triple or a quad without eliminating the beachball underneath the front of my shirt. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 12:35 pm
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| Jack you are a man after my own heart. I was going to say, it isn't the reach of my arms that is the problem, it is the rotundness of my waistband. |
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Jeff Mead
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London, England
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 2:12 pm
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| Bill McCloskey wrote: |
| Jack you are a man after my own heart. I was going to say, it isn't the reach of my arms that is the problem, it is the rotundness of my waistband. |
We'll, yeah, I do have to pull my gut in a bit when going for neck 4. ...or 3 |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 28 Dec 2017 2:20 pm
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Not to mention the brain drain...
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Stefan Robertson
From:
Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 29 Dec 2017 7:26 am
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| Mike Neer wrote: |
| Not to mention the brain drain... |
I think a lot of the time the multi-neck concept is easier on the brain Mike.
Straight bar - 90% of the time
set tuning
Set chords in each tuning
Set songs learned and positions
Easier to play than what you and I are hoping for on a single neck.
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Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Stefan Robertson
From:
Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted 29 Dec 2017 7:27 am
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Freedom aint free Mike
We have to work a lot harder to get what we need out of our tunings for whatever Key and song.
And you even moreso with less strings. 
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Stefan
Bill Hatcher custom 12 string Lap Steel Guitar
E13#9/F secrets: https://thelapsteelguitarist.wordpress.com
"Give it up for The Lap Steel Guitarist" |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 29 Dec 2017 8:45 am
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I used to play a triple 8 Fender. I think steels of greater than two necks are for stylists who need to recreate numerous styles of playing accurately.
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 29 Dec 2017 3:45 pm Buddy Merrill
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
I think Leon played his quad standing up, that helped extend his reach.
That three neck Rick is about the same width as a Fender quad. |
Buddy Merrill played a quad on several of those old Lawrence Welk youtube videos.
He did some cool stuff on his front neck with a bass tuning.
Looked like he had some fat flat wound strings on it.
Seemed to have no trouble playing sitting down, maybe he uses walking sticks now? 
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2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 30 Dec 2017 8:57 am
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Andy,
I can relate to that.
I put flat wound bass strings on the bottom four strings on the far neck.
I played with a polka band that didn't have a tuba and I filled in the best I could. 
Erv |
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Stephen Baker
From:
Lancashire, UK
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Posted 30 Dec 2017 1:10 pm
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Jeff Mead said
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| My mate, Phil Morgan over here in the UK who refinished my quad for me now has a quad of his own which he gigs. |
Yes but Phil is seven foot tall |
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Andy DePaule
From:
Saigon, Viet Nam & Springfield, Oregon
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Posted 30 Dec 2017 3:00 pm I already got the bass strings
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
Andy,
I can relate to that.
I put flat wound bass strings on the bottom four strings on the far neck.
I played with a polka band that didn't have a tuba and I filled in the best I could.
Erv |
Hi Erv,
I already got the bass strings in the mail from juststrings.com
They sell two brands of flat wound as individuals, D'Addario's and GHS.
Got 8 running from 080 to 052. Think I'll tune them kind of like a baritone A6 on the top 5 strings an octave lower than standard and a low 5th on the 8th string and a 7 and 1 for the 7th and 6th strings... Looks good on paper!. 
High to low; E C# A F# E A G E
Will leave them long in case I have to change the tuning to work better.
Kind of slipping back to my old used to be since I started out on bass 50 years ago.
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Inlaid Star Guitar 2006 by Mark Giles. SD-10 4+5 in E9th; http://luthiersupply.com/instrument-gallery.html
2017 Mullen SD-10, G2 5&5 Polished Aluminum covering. Custom Build for me. Great Steel.
Clinesmith Joaquin Murphy style Aluminum 8 String Lap Steel Short A6th.
Magnatone Jeweltone Series Lap Steel, Circa 1950? 6 String with F#minor7th Tuning.
1956 Dewey Kendrick D-8 4&3, Restoration Project.
1973 Sho~Bud Green SD-10 4&5 PSG, Restoration Project. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 31 Dec 2017 7:16 am
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Andy,
Sounds like a deal!
Erv |
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Nic Neufeld
From:
Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 31 Dec 2017 9:38 am
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I'm a complete beginner, but I've thought about putting my far neck into "bass" mode someday. However, with a 3rd-on-top C13 and B11 on the first two necks, I find A6 on that third neck to be really useful, as a faux "C6 with high G"...certain songs need the strummability of a simpler sixth tuning (and so B11 doesn't fit well) but also really benefit from all those natural double stops when you have a 6-1-3-5 tuning on the top 4 strings. But the idea of a low tuned flatwound/baritone neck, that sounds like it could do some really cool stuff. Maybe someday!
Andy, you'll have to let us know how your baritone A6 works out, with those gauges...I was thinking of an octave down C6, at some point, but since you can sink a bit of moolah into custom string sets, would be nice to know if you find those work out well (or if you would tweak gauges). |
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HowardR
From:
N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 31 Dec 2017 2:40 pm
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| Just tune all of the necks to 1 tuning and jump around a lot......people will think you're a virtuoso..... |
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