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Topic: Anyone use their index finger as the primary |
John Fauver
From: Louisville, KY
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Posted 28 Nov 2017 6:05 am
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Was curious to see if any one out there uses their thumb and index finger, as opposed to the thumb and middle finger, as the dominant picking fingers? Most of the educational material, and most players, seem to use the middle finger.
I used my index finger learning lap steel and it comes more naturally for me. I have learned from the Newman videos and other sources to use my middle finger and I notice a slight difference in tone, a little more punch with the middle, but single note playing and speed picking seems cleaner and easier with my index.
Has anyone further down the road been at this crossroad? Is one path the eternal tone, the other total destruction?...or am I all alone on this?
Thank you in advance for any insight provided. |
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David Nugent
From: Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 28 Nov 2017 7:08 am
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Being a long time Scruggs style banjo player, when developing my speed picking technique it seemed quite natural to use both my index and middle fingers. Some licks appeared to come easily while others required more thought and different finger patterns needed to be attempted before the licks felt natural and flowed easily..One example off hand is Bruce Bouton's steel solo in Ricky Skaggs version of 'Country Boy'. Several different patterns were experimented with before I was finally able to play the licks comfortably and up to speed..In my opinion, whatever gets the job done successfully for you is the correct way. One EXCELLENT player that I observed uses a flat pick and his middle and ring fingers. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 28 Nov 2017 9:12 am
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I started using my index finger as the primary before I found out about a lot of players using the middle finger. So, I switched to using both equally. It's easier for me to cross over with my thumb using my middle finger. But due to having trigger finger in my middle finger, I'm finding me favoring the index finger. But even with trigger finger, I find I still pick faster with the middle finger. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 10:48 am
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Another index finger picker here. It's the lead finger for rolls, why not for regular crossover? Tucking the index under never made sense to me for guitar, so T-I came naturally on steel. I practice T-M crossover, but it is sloppy and not a high priority during practice time. |
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John McClung
From: Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 11:15 am
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Index vs middle varies from player to player. Jernigan does all his speed picking with Thumbe-index, reserving his middle finger for chromatic strings generally. But Doug also expertly hits two or three strings in a row with his thumb, something I've so far not managed to learn how to do. _________________ E9 INSTRUCTION
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Billy Carr
From: Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 11:22 am Psg
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I started years ago (71-72') using index finger for speed pickin'. It's a hard habit to break trying to use middle finger instead of index. Banjo rolls are not a problem w/middle finger though. |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 12:06 pm
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John McClung wrote: |
But Doug also expertly hits two or three strings in a row with his thumb, something I've so far not managed to learn how to do. |
Only going forward on adjacent strings though, right?
Reserving the middle finger for chromatics is something I have been working on recently. Scale runs work better that way when transitioning from the lower strings, involving forward and backward rolls of sorts. |
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Ian Worley
From: Sacramento, CA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 2:55 pm
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When I was first trying to figure this crazy machine out I had a kind of flat-handed "crab" grip on my right hand. I am a bass player and not knowing any better this felt natural to me, but Paul Sutherland showed me that using the middle finger as primary keeps your hand rotated up and in the correct position for relaxed palm blocking, and helps keep your elbow tucked in and shoulder relaxed. It felt awkward at first but I soon discovered the wisdom of his advice. There are plenty of exceptions, but I believe this is the underlying reason that this technique evolved over the years with so many great players. |
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Tony Glassman
From: The Great Northwest
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 3:06 pm
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I almost exclusively use thumb + index. Unfortunately, I know that the thumb + middle finger makes more sense anatomically, but I'm too old of a dog to learn new tricks. |
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Kevin Fix
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 4:23 pm Middle Finger
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Thumb and Middle finger here. Feels more natural to me. 35 years now. |
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B. Greg Jones
From: Middleport, Ohio USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 5:16 pm
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Tom Brumley used his index finger for just about everything fast or slow. |
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John Fauver
From: Louisville, KY
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 6:34 pm
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Great info folks. I appreciate the insights. Thank you! |
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John Polstra
From: Lopez Island, WA, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 8:17 pm
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Norman Evans posted this video in a different thread recently. It has good right-hand views of some amazing playing by Mike "Cookie" Jones using thumb-index almost exclusively.
https://youtu.be/PepSao2lmEA
John |
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Fred Treece
From: California, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2017 9:49 pm
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John Polstra wrote: |
Norman Evans posted this video in a different thread recently. It has good right-hand views of some amazing playing by Mike "Cookie" Jones using thumb-index almost exclusively.
https://youtu.be/PepSao2lmEA
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Wow. That open string stuff was pretty cool too. And a good example of how both necks can work on the same tune. |
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Henry Matthews
From: Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2017 10:31 am
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I guess it is what works best for you. I use middle finger 90% of the time. Russ Hicks amd Cookie Jones use their index finger I think. Tommy W uses his middle finger ans does Jody Cameron. They all sound great so what ever fits the bill I guess. _________________ Henry Matthews
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D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2017 4:07 pm
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Decades ago I used my middle finger for high speed stuff, but somehow over the years I found I just naturally went more with thumb/index.. it simply is more natural for me.. I would not sweat it, either finger is fine.. use whats comfortable, and most efficient for you personally... bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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John Goux
From: California, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2017 9:12 pm
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There are some big name players that favor the index as opppsed to the middle. I think they would be considered pick blockers. The hand position is different, flatter than the Newman/Emmons palm blocking postion, which is better for the middle finger.
John |
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