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Topic: Tommy Whites 4th pedal |
Steve Hackney
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Milton, Kentucky USA
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Posted 18 Jun 2005 9:20 pm |
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I saw that Tommy White uses his 4th pedal on the E neck to raise strings 1 and 2. Anyone know how he uses it. Maybe Tommy will honor me with an answer.
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 18 Jun 2005 9:48 pm
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| Steve/Mongo... I'll let Tommy tell you for certain, but if its strings 1 and 2, I would bet its Eb to E and F# to G#... most guys do it on a lever, but why not a pedal??bob [This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 18 June 2005 at 10:48 PM.] |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 19 Jun 2005 7:08 am
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I also have this change on a pedal. I have it on pedal 1. My "normal" pedals start at pedal 2. I know I lose some licks by not having it on a lever, but I don't use it enough to tie up a lever with it.
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Carter D10 9p/10k, NV400
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Jun 2005 3:57 pm
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| It gives you another I-IV inversion, or V-I inversion, same as the A&B pedals do. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2005 6:23 am
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Donny (or others who use this change),
could you give a little more info on how this is used? I am thinking of ditching my "G" lever for something more useful.
I can see ho it gives you another I-IV (B-E in open position). Does it work well in some other combination? I am imagining it would allow you to treat the B-E as V-I and then quickly have access to I-IV (E-A) without moving the bar. Is the sort of thing you use it for? Other applications?
Thanks!
Dan
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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley S-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35, tin can
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 20 Jun 2005 6:30 am
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Dan.. You will find a bunch of useful stuff..
I Have used an E as my second string for 29 years and have raised string 1 a full tone the same amount of time.
You can get "strum across" major chords that sound GREAT,and cool unison licks between strings 1 and 3 and 2 and 4.. You will find a TON of stuff when you add this change.. I'd be lost without it... If you'd like, email me and I'll go into more detail on how to use this pull ...bob[This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 20 June 2005 at 07:36 AM.] |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 21 Jun 2005 6:00 pm
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I basically use it for the G# unison licks that you hear on records. I rarely use the second string change. That is why I don't waste a knee lever on it.
Dan, is your "G" lever changing your F# strings to G? If so, I find this change way more useful than the other change. I also have this change on my guitar. But then again, I pull the first string up to G with my ring finger behind the bar more often than I use the knee lever that raises it to G. It's just faster to do (and it looks cool).
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[This message was edited by Richard Sinkler on 21 June 2005 at 07:04 PM.] [This message was edited by Richard Sinkler on 21 June 2005 at 07:05 PM.] |
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Tommy White
From:
Nashville
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Posted 27 Jun 2005 6:47 am
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Hi Steve,
My 4th floor pedal does raise the 1st string,F# to G# and raises the 2nd string,Eb to E. I try not to use the first string raise too much for unison licks , however the 2nd string raise offers quite a few nice unison options for flowing into tension building resolves.
Being that I lower the 5th and 10th strings,B to A on my RL knee and lower the 6th string,G# to F# on my LV opens many possibles,chords and passages when used with the 4th floor pedal.
For example, picking strings 1,2,4,5 and 6 then engaging all the above mentioned pedals which brings the tuning from the 1 maj7 to a beautiful 4 major7.
My best,
TW |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 27 Jun 2005 10:05 am
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Tommy...
Do you have a feel-stop on that RKL to get just a half-step lower?
B to Bb is such an important pull for me, yet I'd like the B to A as well; I'm just wondering if I could live with having to finesse that half-step lower.
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Steve Hackney
From:
Milton, Kentucky USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2005 4:35 pm
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Thanks Tommy, and all the other guys that helped.
Thanks for the email Bob.
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Tommy White
From:
Nashville
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Posted 28 Jun 2005 5:35 am
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Hi Roger,
Hope you're doing well.
Years ago, I was constantly tuning my B's lower from a half tone to a whole tone and back again until one day I decided to get used to a whole tone lower and stop the madness.
The half stop idea didn't work on that pedal for me either, as it disrupted the feel and pitch change. I would like to have the half lower again but, I'm all out of knees!
Take care,
TW
Mongo,
You are very welcome.
TW www.tommywhite.net [This message was edited by Tommy White on 28 June 2005 at 12:30 PM.] |
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Tommy White
From:
Nashville
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Posted 28 Jun 2005 11:27 am
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Bob Carlucci, Right on.
Donny, Your post is correct, which also tells us whenever a pedal can change the E9th tuning to another complete chord, the freedom of options becomes greater.
By the way, this is my favorite section of the forum. Lots of good stuff here. |
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