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David Matzenik
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Cairns, on the Coral Sea
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Posted 20 Oct 2017 7:21 pm |
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Here are links to two wonderful example of the Royal Hawaiian Hula played by Indonesian and Netherlands bands. Thanks to Harris Sulu for the links.
The Royal Hawaiian Hula has significance in both Holland and Indonesia as it comes from the playing of George de Fretes and Rudi Wairata, the masters of that genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc1horTxH2A&sns=em
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2brKJV-wL3U&sns=em
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David M Brown
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California, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2017 5:36 am
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Thanks. I really like both DeFretes and Wairata's style.
They played D6 tuning if I recall. |
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Colin Bolton
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United Kingdom
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Posted 24 Oct 2017 5:06 am Re: Java-Hawaiian Steel
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| David Matzenik wrote: |
Here are links to two wonderful example of the Royal Hawaiian Hula played by Indonesian and Netherlands bands. Thanks to Harris Sulu for the links.
The Royal Hawaiian Hula has significance in both Holland and Indonesia as it comes from the playing of George de Fretes and Rudi Wairata, the masters of that genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2brKJV-wL3U&sns=em |
David,
Here is another one from a friend Walter Niesing, who lives in Niemagen, Holland. Hope link works.Colin.
https://youtu.be/IdYfm5zaQL4 |
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Peter den Hartogh
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Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted 24 Oct 2017 4:06 pm
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Here is a recording I made in 2004. I also created the backing track and played an Rickenbacher ACE bakelite steel guitar, with the Sol Hoopii tuning. After the mixed song there are 2 short pieces without backing to hear the steel guitar alone.
https://youtu.be/Rh-JTN7NF80
Last edited by Peter den Hartogh on 26 Oct 2017 10:07 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Bill Creller
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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 24 Oct 2017 6:15 pm
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Very well done Peter ! The old Rick ACE sounds great !!  |
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Peter den Hartogh
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Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted 26 Oct 2017 10:07 am
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Thank you, Bill.
I bought that Rick ACE from Joe Savage years ago and it is one of my best lap steels. |
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Peter Garellick
From:
California, USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2017 8:43 am
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Hi Peter, nice job on the recording!
I was wondering what exactly is the Sol Ho'opi'i tuning you used?
Mahalo, Peter |
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Peter den Hartogh
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Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted 31 Oct 2017 7:15 pm
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Sol Hoopii tuning is called C#m7
E high
C#
G#
E
B
G# low
This is similar to other tunings except the B is missing between strings 2 and 3. |
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Peter Garellick
From:
California, USA
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Posted 2 Nov 2017 1:56 pm
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| Interesting...I thought he used an E on the lowest pitch string, but I could be mistaken. |
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David M Brown
From:
California, USA
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Posted 3 Nov 2017 5:55 am
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| Peter Garellick wrote: |
| Interesting...I thought he used an E on the lowest pitch string, but I could be mistaken. |
I have seen Sol's C#m/E6 as L to H
E B E G# C# E
comes from A low bass -
E A E A C# E by raising the low A to B and dropping the middle A to G#. |
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Peter den Hartogh
From:
Cape Town, South Africa
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Michael B Scott
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Orlando Florida, USA
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David Matzenik
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Cairns, on the Coral Sea
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Posted 25 Nov 2017 1:19 pm
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Thanks for the link, Michael. Its interesting stuff, shame the recording quality is not better. The fast falsetto in the first track is pretty good. The overall sound is noticeably influenced by Rock and Roll, especially the bass lines. A lot of "Hawaiian" albums released in the 1960s had that groove. I call it Rock-a-hula. Its fun, but to be frank, I don't care for electric bass. The notes do not decay musically.
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Nov 2017 9:31 pm
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| I like the Royal Hawaiian Hula played in the lower register...D !! |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 26 Nov 2017 2:35 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l36fq35BoZM&list=PLxAz6DkZEEaWXyRHx-kDPUBidHVVI0PcC&index=40
I think the above Youtube is a 2012 radio show, possibly from the Netherlands.
Circa 14'20, the Eastern Aces do what I think is "Mukwai Hula", which I really like. Any more Hawaiian stuff from them? I think they are still active?
Then following after 37'00, I think I hear the DJ say something about "chicken skin" and then an introduction of Royal Hawaiian Hula. Does she say "de Fretes"??
Not sure of the language. |
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David Matzenik
From:
Cairns, on the Coral Sea
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Posted 26 Nov 2017 7:49 pm
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Yes, I recognised that recording as I transcribed it a couple of years ago. She pronounces the name as Zhorzh de Fraytes, which, I suppose, is what we should do.
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