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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 2:39 am    
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Hello all,

I recently swapped changes around on my Dekley knee-levers. One result is that the 2/9 lower with the 2nd string split (D-C#) moved from RKL to RKR. Whereas I had a pretty solid “stop” on this split before (i.e. the 9th string kicked in firmly when the second string got to the half-step) it is now very soft and the travel is very long. I was wondering if anyone has advice on a) what I might have done wrong and/or b) what I might do to regain the firm feel of the half-stop. For what it’s worth, I have moved the change from a “direct” lever mechanism on RKL to an “indirect”; could that have something to do with it?

Thanks!

Dan


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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley S-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35, tin can

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Smiley Roberts

 

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Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 3:27 am    
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Do a name search on Jim Smith,in No.Richland Hills,Tx. He'll be able to help you out,since he help build these GREAT guitars.

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Ray Minich

 

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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:11 am    
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travel is very long.

When I installed RKR on my S-10's I had this same problem until I studied the layout and figured out the timing and layout necessary for this lever. Else you gotta push your knee too far. A loose lever will also hang straight down and not begin to move the pull rod until half way thru the throw.
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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:46 am    
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Yeah, there is too much slack. I have been looking at all the various connectors, and I even adjusted one of them, but I'm a little worried about totally screwing up the mechanism.

Okay Ray: should I just be brave and have at it?

Dan

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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley S-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35, tin can

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Ray Minich

 

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Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 4:57 am    
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Dan, the Dekley pull system is really quite simple. Don't be intimidated by it. Just make sure you have the correct allen wrenches ahead of time. Study each pull rod and make a sketch if necessary. What I did was to get a copy of the Dekley manual from www.steelguitarinfo.com, then cut and pasted the two side view images to make a full sideview image of the guitar. From that you can pretty much follow the mechanism's behavior.

[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 10 June 2005 at 05:58 AM.]

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Jim Smith


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Midlothian, TX, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 6:12 am    
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First off, be sure the rods are in the right holes. The lowers for 2&9 should both be in the top puller holes (furthest from the cross shaft). The raise rod for the 9th string should be in the bottom hole (closest to the cross shaft).

If that is the case and you still want the travel to be shorter, first study the reversing mechanism on page 6 of the owner's manual. The rods should all be in the same holes as the diagram. To make the trave shorter, move the rod that pushes the cross shaft down one hole (closer to the cross shaft).

Thanks for the plug Smiley, but I've lived in Valley Ranch for the past three years. It ain't helped the Cowboys any though.

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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 6:49 am    
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Thanks all!

I'm going to have a go at it this afternoon and I'll let you know where I end up (hopefully a little farther to the left )

Dan


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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley S-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35, tin can

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Dan Beller-McKenna


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Durham, New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jun 2005 3:35 pm    
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Yay!!

thanks to all your suggestions, folks, I got the half-stoip back! (Now if I could only "get my groove back" ... ... or just a get a groove in the first place!! )



Dan

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Dan Beller-McKenna
Durham, NH
Dekley S-10, Telecaster, Guild D-35, tin can

[This message was edited by Dan Beller-McKenna on 10 June 2005 at 04:35 PM.]

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