Fingers & 4 note runs

Ed Mooney · From: Evanston,IL

I was wondering what fingering experienced players used on fast four note reverse rolls or runs. Say you’re at the 10th fret AB pedals down. You play strings 3, 4, 5, 6 then go to 8th fret play strings 3, 4, 5, 6 then the 5th fret AB pedals down, strings 3, 4, 5, 6 finish at 3rd fret, Block all notes . Pardon my use of a not a very musical example but hopefully you get the idea. My inclination is to play it fingers 2, 1, T, T but 2 , 2 , 1 , T seems like it would be more efficient. While I’m asking, if these were forward runs which fingers would you use? I apologize in advance if this is a dumb newbie question.

Ed Mooney
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[This message was edited by Ed Mooney on 27 May 2005 at 10:24 AM.]

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

T 1 2 T

Crossing over and blocking.

Kind of tricky, but it's the only way I've found to play one of Gary Morse's favorite licks.

If I thought I could play that run as well as he can by shaving my head, out would come the razor.

EJL

John McGann · From: Boston, Massachusetts, USA * R.I.P.

w/3 fingerpicks a la Joe Wright: 321T

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Ed Mooney · From: Evanston,IL

Eric, that is tricky. Are you palm or finger blocking?

John, I use 3 fingerpx….3 2 1 T seems obvious now. Thanks

Ed

Jeff Lampert · From: queens, new york city

I just played it using 2,T,1,T three times in a row.

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Ricky Davis · From: Bertram, Texas USA

Finger;Thumb;Finger;Thumb>crossover(1;T;1;T)
And going up would be the same thing>(T;1;T;1)
Or if you use the (2)second finger better.
Ricky

Bill Baseman · From: Santa Rosa, California, USA

This is a very helpful post since I am trying to understand how this thing works. Do you block after each note picked or after each series of notes picked (apologies if this is obvious to some)?

Bill

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

Mr M. Sorry. I misread your string numbers. I'd so 1 t 1 t or as Jeff. Sometimes blocking is dodgy, usually crossing over guarantees blocking. Usually when incorporating a forward playing of 1 and 2, it's probably not blocked.

Don't get real hung up on "pick blocking" as it's one of those things that happens automatically, or not at all. After a few years, your palm/ring or little finger resting on the strings you don't play becomes your baseline, if you don't spend a lot of time agonizing over it.

Sorry for the reading mistake. Long week.

EJL

Dean Parks · From: Sherman Oaks, California, USA

quote:
T 1 2 T

Crossing over and blocking.

Kind of tricky, but it's the only way I've found to play one of Gary Morse's favorite licks.

Eric: I know it's not relevant to this thread's example, since you corrected a misread ... BUT... I noticed on the Leno Dierks Bentley song last week that Gary uses 3 finger picks.

-dean-

Eric West · From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.

Yes he does.

When he played here, his '69 Green Professional, I noticed when "jamming" on a couple Waylon Jennings songs he played some up and down 4 note licks with his thumb and three fingers, in triplets. Gary plays a VERY definite and strong technique. I tried to do the 'up and down' licks on four strings with T,1,2, and found that the best I could do was T 1 2 T 2 1 T, and I usually missed on the last thumb.

I suppose like my experience, taking it SLOW, at first and working up speed over a month or two, would probably get a three pick player there, but I don't seem to have the time inbetween working all week and gigging every weekend.

I'm just getting old...

EJL

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