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Topic: Making an SD from D10 |
Richard Lotspeich
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 5:28 pm |
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So, if you had a good buy on a D10, and didnt play C6,,,would you buy it and convert to an SD ?? Yes or No
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Tim Russell
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Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 5:31 pm
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I would, unless it was some rare vintage instrument. I would have a hard time hacking that one up. I wouldn't do that to an Emmons PP, for example. Just my .02...
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Jerry Overstreet
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Louisville Ky
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 5:53 pm
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Yeah, you could do that if you wanted to. You wouldn't be the first. Seems like singles are way more popular these days, singles prices are way inflated anymore and doubles are generally a better value.
I personally wouldn't want a single unless it were a universal 12 or 14, but I wouldn't think twice about converting a D10 to an SD10 if it suited my needs. |
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 6:09 pm D10
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Thats my take on it too. I can put it back,or not,when the moving on time comes. I've been wanting to try a Carter, and the doubles are sometimes cheaper than the SD's.
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 6:12 pm
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| There was a Carter listed earlier in the classifieds at a very attractive price, but I don't know if it's still available. |
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 6:14 pm
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Ive been watching it.
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 8:50 pm
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It's not something I would recommend but if you do, keep all the C6th parts and put them back on if you sell it. A butchered D10 as a SD10, has a lot less resale value than a complete D10 !
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Jim Reynolds
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Franklin, Pa 16323
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Posted 3 Jul 2017 10:02 pm
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If it's just for weight, I wouldn't do it. You don't lose enough weight to even make worth it. Why ruin a nice instrument, by tearing it apart. Sell it and buy a single. There are lots of very good single necks being sold, at fair prices. People today are stripping steel guitars, and selling the parts from them, and getting more money then if they sold the guitar in tact. If it's a piece of junk, who cares, you probably don't play it anyway. Seriously, take a good look at it, and see the beauty and work that went into it. Then decided.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 4 Jul 2017 7:40 am
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There is no need to "butcher up" a D10 to make it into an SD10.
All you need to do is remove the parts associated with the C6th part of the guitar and place a pad where the neck used to be and you're in business.  |
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 4 Jul 2017 8:27 am
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What Erv said.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 7:17 am
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I am going to restore an Emmons D10 p/p that is pretty much a basket case in its present condition.
I don't feel much like going the D10 route so plan on making it into an SD10.
It will make some steeler a happy camper. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 7:38 am
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I did that once, and the resulting E9th neck had considerably more cabinet drop. Surprise!  Not a big problem, but I had to adjust my tuning chart.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 7:55 am
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| I'm wondering if that extra neck helped reinforce and stiffen the cabinet. |
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 10:06 am
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I hadn't thought of that. So does that mean that a builder picks wood or the way they build a guitar, by weither it's an SD or a double?
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 10:15 am
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Neil Lang
From:
Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 10:21 am
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NO. I am "into" putting them back together, not taking them apart. 
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 11:07 am
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Taking the C6 parts,, off of a guitar,,is by no means butchering it. Nothing has to be cut,,and can all be put back or not. Some have been sold as SD's for the remainder of their lives.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 12:24 pm
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
| I'm wondering if that extra neck helped reinforce and stiffen the cabinet. |
My theory is that the percentage of difference in tension when pushing pedals is greater because there is less overall tension on the cabinet without the C6th strings.
There's also a slight difference in tone and sustain if the C6th strings are ringing while you play the E9th neck. I don't know if that effect is good or bad, but it exists.
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 12:34 pm
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b0b,
You mentioned the sympathetic vibrations of the C6th strings, I installed a keyless tuner on a Sho~Bud years ago and I noticed a tone change with the keyless tuner.
I believe that with a keyed tuner, you get some resonance and sympathetic vibrations from the strings extending past the nut. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Georg SΓΈrtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 6:11 pm Re: Making an SD from D10
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| Richard Lotspeich wrote: |
| So, if you had a good buy on a D10, and didnt play C6,,,would you but it and convert to an SD ?? Yes or No |
Have done it, so yes. |
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Igor Fiksman
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2017 9:39 pm
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Why not just get an sd-10? There are tons of them everywhere. Sure, removing parts doesn't damage the guitar, but parts get misplaced all the time, small items disappear and it does take some effort to put it back to original. As someone who experienced frustration of trying to locate all of the rare parts to restore an old guitar,removing parts from a working all original instrument just doesn't feel right.
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Richard Lotspeich
From:
North Georgia
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Posted 6 Jul 2017 2:33 am
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There are about 3 times the amount of doubles listed at any time, compared to sd's. The price is higher most times out of demand only. Remember,, we're not talking a Prestige/PP or even an older guitar.
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Chuck Miller
From:
Newton, Iowa, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2017 9:45 am
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I wouldn't. I've had my 76 D10 MSA Lacquer for about ten years now. Never played C6 for several years, Eventually I started experimenting on C6. Until then I just laid a small towel over the pickup area to protect the strings (and my arm). My guitar just sets at home, so I don't have the problem of moving that 90 pound monster (in the case) around.
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Mike Vallandigham
From:
Martinez, CA
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Posted 6 Jul 2017 12:32 pm
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Why not just leave it, or better yet, Play C6th.
I enjoy C6th immensely, perhaps more than E9th.
Don't sell yourself short! |
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