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Topic: SHo-Bud Maverick Pedals/Knee Info |
Tony Oresteen
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Georgia, USA
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Posted 14 May 2017 6:31 pm |
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Way way back in 1973ish I bought a Sho-Bud Maverick 3+1 pedal steel guitar out of a pawnshop in Killeen, Texas. Around 1975 while in college I sold it and I have never sat down at a pedal steel guitar since.
I looked on-line and haven't been able to find an owners' manual for the Maverick.
For the life of me, I can not remember what each of the three pedals did. Ditto for the knee lever. But, hey, it's been 42 years  .
Can someone explain what each of the pedals & knee lever did on the Maverick? TIA!
I do know I played in E9 tuning but that's all I can recall.
Also, does anyone know where a Maverick Owner's manual in a PDF might be found?
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Greg Lambert
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Illinois, USA
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 14 May 2017 6:58 pm
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Thanks! I saw that but it's a RAR file that holds an executable (.exe) file - too dangerous to open!
Most likely it's a malware loader. No reason to put a PDF in an .exe file unless you want to do bad things! |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 May 2017 7:07 pm
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The knee lever lowers 2 to either C# or D (when I have guitars without a half-stop, I'd retune depending on the song) and 8 to D#.
The three pedals are the standard A, B and C pedals (A pedal raises 5 and 10 to C#, B raises the G#s to A and the C pedal raises 4 and 5 a whole tone.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 14 May 2017 9:59 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
The knee lever lowers 2 to either C# or D (when I have guitars without a half-stop, I'd retune depending on the song) and 8 to D#.
The three pedals are the standard A, B and C pedals (A pedal raises 5 and 10 to C#, B raises the G#s to A and the C pedal raises 4 and 5 a whole tone. |
Thank you Lane! |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 15 May 2017 10:29 am
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Mike, many thanks! I ordered one - should be here by Friday. You saved me a post as I was going to ask about a book next .
I still have my first pedal steel book from 1973. It's by Mel Bay / Don Sharp from 1972.
I remember having issues with it. Page 4 shows how to tune a 10 string pedal to E9.
Why they listed strings 10 & 9 as E & B I have no clue. I'm not the only person lead down the path of despair by Don Sharp:
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=156157&sid=d5d9171a6055b95d21cea3e5f9dfb12b
I'm not going to toss it - remember, just because it's in a book (or on the internet) doesn't mean that it's true . Proof!
Last edited by Tony Oresteen on 10 Jul 2017 6:48 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 15 May 2017 4:03 pm
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OK, I think I have it figured out. I did up a Copedent chart for the Sho-Bud 6152 Maverick
Do I have the pedals & the knee lever listed correctly for the Maverick?
What I don't recall is can the Maverick RKR drop the 2nd string a full step?
A couple of notes on my copedent:
1. SPN is Scientific Pitch Notation. I use MIDI a lot and SPN is a way to keep instruments in their correct ranges.
2. Frequencies listed are actual scientific pitch frequencies "straight up" based on a 440 Hz A note above middle C. Do not get them confused with tunings that vary a note from a 440 base (plus or minus) depending on how many cents of compensation is needed for a particular string on a particular guitar.
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 15 May 2017 7:25 pm
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There's plenty of room for the 2nd string to drop to C#.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 15 May 2017 11:10 pm
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Indeed. The BE didn't last. DB on the bottom two
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 16 May 2017 2:29 am
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| b0b wrote: |
I always thought it was this:
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P1 P2 P3 K
F#
D# D
G# A
E F#
B C# C#
G# A
F#
E D#
D
B C# |
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That's the setup Winnie's book is written for.
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Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 16 May 2017 4:48 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Indeed. The BE didn't last. DB on the bottom two |
Lane. Thanks. I'm new to this PSG world and I do not under stand what you mean when you say "BE didn't last" & "DB on the bottom two".
Are taking about the RKR lever?
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
PedalMaster D8 |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 May 2017 9:05 am
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No, I meant strings 9 and 10. The standard E9th runs, 10-1, BDEF#G#BEG#D#F#, and the early Buds went EBEF#G#BEG#D#F#, with no 7th in the lower octave. That tuning didn't stick.
If your guitar will only have one lever, dropping 2 and 8 is the wiser way to go.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 16 May 2017 11:09 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
No, I meant strings 9 and 10. The standard E9th runs, 10-1, BDEF#G#BEG#D#F#, and the early Buds went EBEF#G#BEG#D#F#, with no 7th in the lower octave. That tuning didn't stick.
If your guitar will only have one lever, dropping 2 and 8 is the wiser way to go. |
Ahh! Thanks! Now I understand how Don Sharp got the tuning he listed in his book.
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
PedalMaster D8 |
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Ron Pruter
From:
Arizona, USA
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Posted 16 May 2017 6:03 pm
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I worked at Sho-Bud in the early seventies and I think I remember Mike P's and bOb"s copedent being correct. RP
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Emmons SKH Le Grande, '73 Fender P/J bass, Tick tack bass, Regal high strung, USA Nashville 112. |
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Tony Oresteen
From:
Georgia, USA
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Posted 18 May 2017 5:56 pm
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Mile P,
Winnie's book arrived today complete with a CD. Tracks are ripped to MP3 & I added the correct artwork
I'm traveling tomorrow - wonder if the wife will let me play the tracks in the car? Guess not!
Thanks again for recommending this book to me.
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
PedalMaster D8 |
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 19 May 2017 4:05 pm
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IMO the Don Sharp "method" is so complex as to be almost unworkable. I bought a copy of that book a long time ago more out of curiosity than anything, and was really surprised at the excessive-ness of the "method".
PRR |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Paul Redmond
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 19 May 2017 5:18 pm
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Right on, Mike. After four full decades, that book is in its 14 or 15 printing. Unbelievable!!! Sadly, so many of the players in all the pics inside are gone as are both of the authors.
PRR |
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