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Greg Milton


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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2017 3:19 am    
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Hello all,

Lately I've been getting into the Everly Brothers' album 'Sing Great Country Hits' (released 1963), which has some great steel on it by Red Rhodes:

http://www.allmusic.com/album/sing-great-country-hits-mw0000649312

I've never really appreciated Red Rhodes that much. I heard a few Mike Nesmith/First National Band tracks years ago and wasn't overwhelmed, but I quite like his playing on these classic country songs. And his tuning is very interesting too. Here it is transposed from Eb6 to E9:



It seems pretty original - lots of Ds and some unusual raise combinations (D & C, F# & Eb, F# & D x2).

Anyone using changes that are similar to this?

Greg
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John Haspert

 

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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2017 7:48 am     Red Rhodes
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What an interesting man (a real character and a genius)! I grew up in So California and knew of him as a player, store owner, band leader, studio musician, inventor etc. This in not here to tell stories, per se, but he was a genius in his "electronic pursuits" and his playing. I remember asking him several times throughout the years about taking lessons from him. His response was usually along the lines of, "I really would not be a very good teacher" or "I am not even sure how I do some of these things, it just comes out!" In his way, he was humble, I just wished I could have studied with him to learn some of those secrets. If you look in Winnie Winston's book, you will see a comment about Red's Eb diatonic tuning should be looked at carefully. It strikes me- has anyone ever asked Jay Dee, Pete Grant or John Bidasio about this.
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2017 8:04 am    
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It doesn't sound like E9 or C6.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjLNYFpg6FM
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Don Crowl

 

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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2017 6:30 pm    
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Red sure demonstrated some very creative & tasty innovations in that recording.
I'm reminded also that my deceased friend, Al Gershon, got & played Red's Fender 1000.
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Dave Zirbel


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Sebastopol, CA USA
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2017 5:52 am    
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It seems pretty original - lots of Ds and some unusual raise combinations (D & C, F# & Eb, F# & D x2).

Anyone using changes that are similar to this?


I think strings 2-10 are similar to part of Zane Beck's and Zane King's 12 string tunings.

Been enjoying these Red albums lately, most likely done on the Fender 1000 Don mentioned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7sfXQcFCwo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8H8swzmvo
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Jim Fogarty


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Phila, Pa, USA
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2017 4:15 pm    
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Red plays great all over Iain Matthews' "Valley Hi" album......steel and dobro. Just perfect.

Check this one out.......and note where The Eagles stole the arrangement!

https://youtu.be/tg4ypNNCSFA
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 30 Mar 2017 4:33 pm     "Games People Play"...
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What a tone!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBtzgxU8LrY
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Mike Holder


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2017 10:51 am    
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I love " Shady Lies" and great guitar n Nesmiths Propinquity!
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 1 Apr 2017 12:33 pm    
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What's the sory behind the "Velvet Hammer" pickup. Can someone enlighten me?
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Greg Milton


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Benalla, Australia
Post  Posted 2 Apr 2017 12:08 am    
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Joachim Kettner wrote:
What's the sory behind the "Velvet Hammer" pickup. Can someone enlighten me?


The velvet hammer pickup?
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Dave Zirbel


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Post  Posted 2 Apr 2017 7:35 am    
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https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/red-rhodes-velvet-hammers.495916/
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Joachim Kettner


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Post  Posted 2 Apr 2017 7:43 am    
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Thanks Dave. I faintly remembered the Clarence White Tele thing, but I wasn't sure.
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