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John Swain


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Post  Posted 9 Nov 2016 9:06 am    
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This is the setup I've been using for three years now. I like to think it's "logical" for both necks: LKL raises root;RKL lowers root;LKV lowers third;RKR gives Dom7; RKR on E9 is where it doesn't adversely affect C6 neck, and on C6 neck minors off str9, +5 off str10. The front neck is what Mike Johnson uses(much better than I do!) and the back neck is a Buck Reid/Doug Jernigan hybrid. Like all setups it has some compromises and YMMV. Food for thought. JS
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David Gertschen

 

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Phoenix, Arizona
Post  Posted 9 Nov 2016 10:35 am    
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There are some good ideas there, John. I like how the sixth string lower to F# has its own lever.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 9 Nov 2016 10:38 am    
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Fascinating. Steel guitar, the final frontier. The copedants of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

I've had all those changes on and off for a while now. You're right that YMMV based on who's playing the guitar. When I first saw Jim Murphy play up close with Hank Thompson I was of course amazed. He played things with his setup I'd never heard before. After he showed me that his copedant setup at the time was almost identical to mine, I then had to believe it must be his amp or perhaps his pickups or some other secret. I do believe that the E9th 7th string full tone raise is sort of a secret and very powerful. Split tuning or half pedaling was another secret that many pros used to great effect. Splits greatly expand what can be done on the E9th tuning.
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 10 Nov 2016 6:56 am    
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I do the same thing with my knee levers. Very logical.
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Ron Hogan

 

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Nashville, TN, usa
Post  Posted 28 Jan 2017 9:41 pm    
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I like what your 4th pedal is doing on C6th. Instead of just a 4th string raise.
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2017 3:07 pm    
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Ron, find the YouTube of Buck Reid playing "Song for Kendra" or an "original song". He uses this pedal extensively.
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Rich Upright


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2017 3:42 pm    
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Live long & prosper, John!
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Roger Rettig


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Naples, FL
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2017 4:34 pm    
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Greg: I like raising the 7th a whole step too.

Interesting, John, but I couldn't live without lowering my B to Bb on a k/l so I can use it with pedals.
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Ricky Davis


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Bertram, Texas USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2017 8:43 pm    
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this was my copedant on my blue darlin fulawka I had years ago.
Tab:

          P1  P2  P3    LKL1 LKL2 LKV LKR RKL RKR
(E9th)
(012) F#                           G#  G
(015) D#                           E   D       D/C#
(012) G#      A
(014) E           F#     F    F#           Eb
(018) B   C#      C#                 
(022w)G#      A                        F#               
(026) F#                           E                               
(030) E           F#     F    D            Eb
(034) D                                        C#
(038) B   C#                         
(Tunable splits on 4th;6th;8th strings)

Tab:

(C6th)     P4  P5  P6  P7  P8   LKL  LKV LKR RKL RKR

(012) G        F#                    G#   F   
(014) E            F                              D
(017) C                D                      B   
(020) A    B           B         Ab  Bb                   
(026w)G        F#                         F   
(030) E            Eb                             D
(036) C                    C#
(042) A    B                     Ab  Bb                             
(056) F        F#          E                      Eb 
(070) C        D           A
(Tunable splits on 2nd;3rd strings)

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John Booth


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Columbus Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2017 5:12 am    
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Greg Cutshaw wrote:
Fascinating. Steel guitar, the final frontier. The copedants of the many outweigh the needs of the few.



... Or the One
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2017 5:25 pm    
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Yes I like the logic of having the E-F's (E9th) and the C-C# (C6th) levers both in the LKL position - helps with the muscle memory and also the E-Eb E9th and C-B C6th on RKL !!

very similar to my setup on both necks, albiet with a few different ideas here and there :-} very practical John
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John Swain


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Winchester, Va
Post  Posted 31 Jan 2017 6:48 am    
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I feel another advantage is having 4 pedals and 2 kls where most non-tricked out D-10s have them! Sitting in is less of a challenge.
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