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Paul Wade


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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 7:46 am    
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just got a shobud super pro in from 1981. looks like it's been in a smoke filled bar for awhile. what's a good way to remove smoke from pull rods, changer, cross rods. what to you guys used ???

p.w
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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 8:07 am    
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James Morehead suggested I use the combination of Meguiar's Cleaner wax and elbow grease. It worked for me.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 9:27 am    
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Rubbing alcohol.
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Storm Rosson

 

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Silver City, NM. USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 12:36 pm    
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I go with Erv except I use denatured alcohol as it has way less water in it than rubbing (isopropyl 70%)alcohol.When I have it I use absolute methanol technical grade.
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Clyde Mattocks

 

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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 12:45 pm    
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I would try some Goo Gone. It cuts a lot of different types of gunk and doesn't harm any finishes I've tried it on so far.
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Carl Heatley


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Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 2:53 pm    
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I use brake cleaner...But do it outside....you can use it on the changer too...It won't hurt anything.
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Jim Kennedy

 

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Brentwood California, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 5:52 pm    
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I read an article by Dan Erliwine about removing cigarette residue from a vintage Gibson headstock. His method was to spit on a rag and start rubbing. The enzymes in saliva will remove the goo, but will not harm the finish.
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gary pierce


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Rossville TN
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 7:36 pm    
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This is the easy way to get it really clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H-I7Jv9Aww
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David Higginbotham

 

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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 21 Jan 2017 8:55 pm    
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My go to solution on a few guitars that I've had with the same issue (as crazy at it sounds) was to remove the pickups, input jack, and toggle switch take it outside and spray the entire undercarriage and changers with air conditioner coil cleaner. I use the least potent (the green liquid not the yellow or pink) that's used on indoor coils for air handlers. It removes all of the undesired gunk when allowed to set for several minutes and then I wash it off with a water hose. I usually did it twice back to back and then used a heat gun on the low setting to dry off the remaining water and kept it in a dry low humidity room overnight.

This didn't hurt the maple bodies with lacquer or mica. You would be amazed how much gunk washes out when you rinse it. But the trick is not to leave the cleaner on very long and not to leave the guitar wet for an extended period of time. Lightly lube the changer afterwards and reinstall the electronics.

This worked well for me. Your mileage may vary!
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 7:10 am    
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Storm,
I just checked my bottle of alcohol and it is the 91% isopropyl alcohol. Very Happy
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Storm Rosson

 

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Silver City, NM. USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 7:51 am    
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Erv, u buy the good stuff I see, Wally world has 50/70/91% but that's still 9% H2O. Most of the alcohol(s)by chemical nature are hygroscopic so they always contain a percentage of H2O unless they are dessicated to obtain the "anhydrous" label, usually reserved for reagent grade chemicals and also considerably more $$.Still the adsorbed H2O can cause moisture related probs unless it is completely dried, usually by blowing with air.I get absolute or denatured and add 1/2 tsp of dehydrated MgSO4(epsom salt)made by putting regular epsom salt crystal in a 400 degree oven in a glass pie plate for an hour or so(it will no longer appear crystalline as anhydrous salt will be an amorphous powder)as the heat drives the ten molecules of water out of the decahydrate crystalline form. It's insoluble in alcohol and is a more active dessicant so it bonds with any H2O in the alcohol and can then be removed by filtration if necessary.
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Bill Ferguson


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Milton, FL USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 8:37 am    
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I use the Citrus Orange Degreaser from Home Depot
I tape off my pickup, stand the guitar up on the changer end on an old piece of carpet.

Spray it on and let it sit for a minute or so, then spray again.
Wipes clean with a cloth and cotton swabs for hard to reach spots.

It also helps to degunk the changer.

Use compressed air to blow everything dry and blow down in the changes real good.

Then I use light gun oil on moving parts and Automatic Transmission Fluid (abundantly) in the changers.

Let it sit and then wipe off excess that comes out where the tuning nuts are.

This has worked well for me.
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Paul Wade


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mundelein,ill
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 8:41 am     cigarettes smoke on shobud super pro
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thanks everybody for all your idea's. bill will try yours. and i like the pressure washer idea to Smile

p.w
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Rich Upright


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Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 9:17 am    
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Do you realize that Gibson & Fender take brand new guitars, beat the hell outta them, rust up the parts, and charge half a grand more for them?

Leave it. It ads class, history & mojo to the axe.
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Storm Rosson

 

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Silver City, NM. USA
Post  Posted 22 Jan 2017 9:32 am    
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Don't forget to add "stench" to the list of vintage attributes.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 23 Jan 2017 2:07 pm    
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Carl Heatley wrote:
I use brake cleaner...But do it outside....you can use it on the changer too...It won't hurt anything.


(Not for the sake of argument, but for information only)

I learned (the hard way - by experience) that brake cleaner will dissolve some finishes, and even soften certain types of plastic. Embarassed

Been there, done that.
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Storm Rosson

 

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Silver City, NM. USA
Post  Posted 23 Jan 2017 2:30 pm    
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Glad you brought that up Donnie, I was a tad apprehensive when brake cleaner was mentioned. If they hadn't taken methylene chloride out some years back , that could be a major snafu....Stormy Razz
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Carl Heatley


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Morehead City,NC
Post  Posted 23 Jan 2017 3:01 pm    
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Donny Hinson wrote:
Carl Heatley wrote:
I use brake cleaner...But do it outside....you can use it on the changer too...It won't hurt anything.


(Not for the sake of argument, but for information only)

I learned (the hard way - by experience) that brake cleaner will dissolve some finishes, and even soften certain types of plastic. Embarassed

Been there, done that.

Never had any problems with it...Mind you,You wouldn't want to hose the guitar down with it...That would be stupid!
Best just spray a little on rag and wipe on the metal parts...On mica and lacquer finishes I use "Citrol" by Schaeffers...Not cheap but is the best thing I have found for removing adhesives from masking tape,stickers,pin stripe...Works pretty good on grease but takes more time.
Never use brake cleaner on anything rubber...It will destroy it.
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Philip Mitrakos


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The Beach South East Florida
Post  Posted 23 Jan 2017 7:25 pm    
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It may be grease lube that yellow stuff I've bought some steels in the past with that stuff on all the under side parts before , looks like some spray on grease..
If it was from cigarette smoke the end plates changer housing head stock tuners body would all have the same chit' on em
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