| Visit Our Catalog at SteelGuitarShopper.com |

Post new topic Simple spreadsheet to visualize possibilites
Reply to topic
Author Topic:  Simple spreadsheet to visualize possibilites
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:05 pm    
Reply with quote

I use this simple spreadsheet thing to research possibilities on the E9 10 string neck.
I just type ni the numbers at the proper place under the scale letters and it appears on the neck view.
I capture the screen showing an A9th chord.
Chords are described in terms of numbers so it would seem logical that if you plan on playing more than three chords learning the numbers would be helpful.
View user's profile Send private message
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:13 pm    
Reply with quote

I would think that one of the first things to learn about a pedal steel is what the levers and pedals do.
Then when you look at the spreadsheet E9 neck you can visualize the possibilities.
On the E9 neck an A9th chord would generally reduced to its simplest form so you could play it with the thumb pick and 2 finger picks.
The 9th chord consists of the 1+3+5+b7+9 but since the Bass guitar usually plays the 1s and 5s you can drop those from the chord and that leaves you with the 3+b7+9.
So a person armed with all the above knowledge of chord number and what the levers and pedals do should not need complicated charts to find chords scales or anything else on the E9 neck.
Everything in red can ve pulled under the tonebar by levers and pedals on my coped.
View user's profile Send private message
Paul Stauskas


From:
DFW, TX
Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:15 pm    
Reply with quote

Please see the link in my forum signature for a similar discussion about a program to accomplish this.
_________________
My site
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:17 pm    
Reply with quote

Here is an example of the “Am” Pentatonic Scale.


Again if you know your numbers and your levers and pedals the possibilities just jump out at you
View user's profile Send private message
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:30 pm    
Reply with quote

Paul I'm sure a lot of folks would be interested in your Coped.
For those who might want to go a different route to success I am advocating learning numbers and what the levers and pedals do before a person uses a spreadsheet and there would be no need for anything more than the basic view.
This is not a new I have used this way back when you had to use floppy discs.
It's just much simpler to create your own now than it was back then.
View user's profile Send private message
Paul Stauskas


From:
DFW, TX
Post  Posted 19 Jan 2017 8:35 pm    
Reply with quote

Stuart Legg wrote:
Paul I'm sure a lot of folks would be interested in your Coped.
For those who might want to go a different route to success I am advocating learning numbers and what the levers do before a person uses a spreadsheet and there would be no need for anything more than the basic view.
This is not a new I have used this way back when you had to use floppy discs.
It's just much simpler to create your own now than it was back then.


I'm not sure what you mean by "your Coped." The program allows users to recreate their own guitar's copedent in a flexible manner and view scales, chord forms, note numbers and letters dynamically.
_________________
My site
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 1:56 am    
Reply with quote

Coped‘, I meant to write Coolped’
Paul I think your work is a worthwhile endeavor and you have obviously given it a lot of thought
My method is in no way intended to undermine your efforts.
My approach is a simple spreadsheet worksheet with a basic neck view calculator at the top of it and I just acquire the knowledge needed to form my own mental app (brain no mouse) and make mental note of what I discover and apply it to the PSG.
A great perk or side affect is that I generally find something more interesting more often than not totally unrelated to what I was looking for.

Example I was looking for Amaj7 chords and noticed a progression using the same forms in between.
On 7th fret mash the A pedal down and release and move back to the 5th fret mash the A pedal down and release back to the 3rd fret mash and release and back to the 2nd fret with no pedal.
A nice turn or ending progression.
View user's profile Send private message
Richard Alderson


From:
Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 6:54 am    
Reply with quote

Good News ! Stuart's back ! Great and thoughtful contribution, as usual.
_________________
Derby SD-10 5x6; GFI S-10 5x5; GFI S-10 5x5; Zum D-10 8x7; Zum D-10 9x9; Fender 400; Fender Rumble 200; Nashville 400; Telonics TCA-500.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 20 Jan 2017 1:09 pm    
Reply with quote

Thanks for the encouragement Richard.
From experience I’ve noticed after I find what I’m searching for on the spreadsheet, that same lever or pedal or combination of is only going to useful on a select few frets.
By just producing the neck view of what I'm looking for and then only apply a mental app at each fret as I move visually from fret to fret it allows me to make other uncluttered observations without all the time consuming rethink mental gymnastics.
It let me see this path that I might have missed otherwise.
View user's profile Send private message

All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Jump to:  
Please review our Forum Rules and Policies
Our Online Catalog
Strings, CDs, instruction, and steel guitar accessories
www.SteelGuitarShopper.com

The Steel Guitar Forum
148 S. Cloverdale Blvd.
Cloverdale, CA 95425 USA

Click Here to Send a Donation

Email SteelGuitarForum@gmail.com for technical support.


BIAB Styles
Ray Price Shuffles for Band-in-a-Box
by Jim Baron