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Topic: Augmented chord , 1 1+ 4 4 examples |
Wolfgang Mrazek
From: Sweden
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Posted 4 Dec 2016 10:24 am
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Hi!
Can someone give some good examples of country songs where it is used?
I'm trying to explain this chord progression to the rest in my band but with no success. Some examples would be of great help.
We are rehearsing the song Today I Started Loving you Again, Merle. I would like to have it there at measures 9,10,11 in the chorus.
Thanks for help!
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Pete Nicholls
From: Macon, Georgia, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2016 10:33 am
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How about the Ronnie Milsap song, Lost in the Fifties Tonight _________________ Justice The Judge SD-10, 2007
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Glenn Demichele
From: (20mi N of) Chicago Illinois, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2016 11:03 am
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Secret agent man is the best intro to +5 _________________ Franklin D10 8&5, Excel D10 8&5. Both amazing guitars! Homemade buffer/overdrive with adjustable 700Hz "Fender" scoop., Moyo pedal, GT-001 effects, 2x TDA7294 80W class AB amps, or 2x BAM200 for stereo. TT12 and BW1501 each in its own closed back wedge. Also NV400 etc. etc... |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Dec 2016 12:05 pm
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Does the intro to Devil's Alley fit the bill? _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
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Ian Kerr
From: Queensland, Australia
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Posted 4 Dec 2016 10:02 pm
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Have a listen to the current posting in the Tablature section by Frank Freniere.He has posted the solo of Jeff Newman playing the Last Letter.It has a nice movement from A+ TO D.
The title of the posting is E9 Jeff Newman Solo. |
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Will Cowell
From: Cambridgeshire, UK
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Posted 5 Dec 2016 6:29 am
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I love the augmented chord. First heard it in "I hear you knocking" by Dave Edmunds (not country, I know) but it caught my 15-year-old ear. I'm 63 now.
Try it in "Crazy", after "And I'm crazy for lovin' you" - the chorus - the very last beat of the last bar as you come back into the new verse, begs for a quick Gaug (if you are playing in C). _________________ Williams 700 series keyless U12,
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Michael Robertson
From: Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 5 Dec 2016 10:52 am have to restrain myself.
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I have to admit I am guilty of using the 5Chord augmented perhaps too much….
Love the tone of it but a little goes a long way…I have to restrain myself. _________________ No Avatar only a picture of my Mentor. |
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Bob Cox
From: Buckeye State
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Posted 5 Dec 2016 2:41 pm
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Try a back slide of 5 frets once executed or front slide . Something I use once in a while |
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Will Cowell
From: Cambridgeshire, UK
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Posted 5 Dec 2016 3:04 pm
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Why 5 frets? Augmented repeats every 4 frets. What's the thinking behind 5? _________________ Williams 700 series keyless U12,
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Wolfgang Mrazek
From: Sweden
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Posted 6 Dec 2016 4:06 am
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Well, thanks very much! You are great, this is great help for me and our band. _________________ WBS 10 lefty |
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John Williamson
From: Georgia, USA
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John Williamson
From: Georgia, USA
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Earnest Bovine
From: Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 6 Dec 2016 9:35 am Re: Augmented chord , 1 1+ 4 4 examples
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Wolfgang Mrazek wrote: |
Today I Started Loving you Again, Merle. ... at measures 9,10,11 in the chorus.
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That seems like a dangerous place to play a raised 5th, because it would conflict with the the natural unraised 5th in the melody. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 6 Dec 2016 9:48 am
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Since I/I+/IV is the same movement as V/V+/I, let's not forget Bill Monroe's "Rawhide" where the B part, in C, goes E E E E A A A A D D D D G G G+ G+ _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Brett Lanier
From: Madison, TN
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Posted 6 Dec 2016 10:32 am
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It's dangerous in general telling everybody about your intention to put an augmented chords in a song. Most often they're implied by a string part, piano, steel and not played in full. |
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Wolfgang Mrazek
From: Sweden
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Posted 7 Dec 2016 12:12 am
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Thanks again for all responds.
My first need is help to explain the chord progression with augmented chord to my band. You have given me great help so I will give it a new try.
It is a bit new for us. The basic move with 7th chord, 1 1-7 4, we know.
How to use 5+ and not to use it is good information. As a steel guitarist I suppose I can use the 5+ alone but I must be careful so it don't conflict with a 5 that some other may play. _________________ WBS 10 lefty |
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Ian Kerr
From: Queensland, Australia
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Posted 7 Dec 2016 1:56 am
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If you play Jingle Bell Rock,for the part''Now the Jingle hop has begun", in the key of C "has begun" is on the G7+ CHORD and "has begun" is D#, so here there is no clash as the melody and the augmented note are the same going from a V7+ to a 1. |
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Will Cowell
From: Cambridgeshire, UK
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Posted 7 Dec 2016 8:54 am
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I have always regarded the augmented as a passing note on the way from a I to a IV, or from V to I.
To be used sparingly, as it isn't a scale note, it's a bit like using nutmeg in cooking. Just a trace here or there, occasionally.... More is too much. _________________ Williams 700 series keyless U12,
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Quentin Hickey
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 3:58 am
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I use augmented quite alot when I am taking a solo not so much when I am laying back. In the pedals down position of a one chord I engage the f lever. In the open position. Of a one chord I half pedal my A pedal. The only example of a cou try song I can think of is the acoustic intro to I got friends in low places. I find it fits good into arrangements as a colourful passing chord. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 8:07 am
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Where in "Low Places"?" "showed up in boots" is over a #1dim _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Lynn Stafford
From: Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 9:46 am
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I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the tune "I Always Get Lucky With You" by now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dJz8xY0gvI
Great use of augmented (and diminished) chord in this iconic tune. _________________ Best regards,
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Quentin Hickey
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 10:07 am
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Yeah that is a 2b half dim. I was trying to think of a "country" song with an Augmented chord off the top of my head to give a quick example. I'm sure there are lots but I can't think of any right off the top of my head. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 10:50 am
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Right Or Wrong (the Bob Wills, not the Wanda Jackson) goes to E+ on Bar 1 (the "Right or" being pick-up notes) if you're in G. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Quentin Hickey
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 11:18 am
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George Straights version has that change as well. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 10 Dec 2016 12:28 pm
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Every version better have it. I was pointing out that the Wanda thing is a completely different song, a 12/8 ballad instead of a 4/4 swing. With different words and chords, and all that other stuff.
My band in 2008 recorded the Wills thing (predates Bob, see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_or_Wrong_(song)for info), and Jody was doing the research for the credits, and came into the bar all excited to tell us that he'd found that Wanda had written it. I had a chuckle. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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