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Todd OToole

 

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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 1 Dec 2016 9:30 am    
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Been playing guitar for a little bit and always loved the sound of lap steels. I did some research and went with a magnatone from the 50's. What can you guys tell me about this model? Any advice (didn't see a beginner faq thread)

https://reverb.com/item/1281823-magnatone-trick-bros-special-1950s-gray-pearloid


Thank you
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2016 3:55 pm    
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Those are lovely instruments, I have that same instrument branded "Nioma", and it sounds way better than the price tag.

They made a lot of them, and as such the Dickerson/Magnatones are underpriced. Also, no famous rock stars have popularized the old MAgnatones like Lindley has for the old National/Supros.
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Frank James Pracher


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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2016 7:13 pm    
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The blue lap steel in my profile picture is a "Trick Brothers".. made by Magnatone. They're great. They have a nice tone, and I really like the raised hand rest on the body.. They can be bright sounding, but the tone control works well and you can dial in a nice sweet sound.
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Todd OToole

 

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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2016 7:46 pm    
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Thanks for the responses David and Frank! Do you guys have a book or dvd to recommend for learning lap steel? I only know basic guitar and music theory.

I was thinking of using c6 tuning. Where do you guys get your lap strings at?

Also, do the trick bros special vary from the other magnatones?



Thanks guys!
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Frank James Pracher


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Post  Posted 1 Dec 2016 8:35 pm    
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Todd OToole wrote:


Also, do the trick bros special vary from the other magnatones?


No.. they are comparable to other Magnatones of the same era.

C6th is a great tuning, I make up my own sets of strings.. I've been getting them from Strings by Mail lately and have been very happy.. I use .015,.017,.020,.024w,.030w,.036w

I bought lots of books and videos so it's hard to narrow down the best.. I remember Georgeboards had a really good video showing the basics.. like blocking, and how to set up fingerpicks and what not...
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2016 6:00 am    
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Frank James Pracher wrote:
The blue lap steel in my profile picture is a "Trick Brothers".. made by Magnatone. They're great. They have a nice tone, and I really like the raised hand rest on the body...


Supposedly Sol Hoopii liked the little handrest.
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2016 6:21 am    
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[quote="Frank James Pracher"]
Todd OToole wrote:


C6th is a great tuning, I make up my own sets of strings.. I've been getting them from Strings by Mail lately and have been very happy.. I use .015,.017,.020,.024w,.030w,.036w


C6 is a very common and useful tuning - although I play WAY more in A6 or one of the E7/C#m variants.

There are lots of pre-made string sets too, like these

http://www.juststrings.com/sit-sc-c6th-6.html

[img]http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/juststrings_2269_231017014[/img]

They make sets for A6 and various E tunings too.

A search of the net will provide MANY links for the C6 player, including video lessons from several sources, some free, some paid.

A few to get you going:

http://www.planetgaa.com/C6/

http://www.planetgaa.com/C6/C6Resources.html

http://playsteelguitar.com/

http://www.steelc6th.com/

http://www.steelc6th.com/tabs/crash_course_hawaiian.htm

http://www.scottysmusic.com/byrdbook.htm

http://www.steelguitarcamp.com/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwOFQ7rGS44

Best of luck.

Time for me to work more with the C tunings.
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Charles Stange

 

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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2016 7:07 am    
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"Nioma" = National Institute Of Music and Arts. I have a 1930's Nioma Resonator Guitar purportedly built by Regal..
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2016 8:02 am    
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Charles Stange wrote:
"Nioma" = National Institute Of Music and Arts. I have a 1930's Nioma Resonator Guitar purportedly built by Regal..


It seems to have been a pretty large music school.
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John Kwasnik


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Post  Posted 2 Dec 2016 5:34 pm     books
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Todd --

The DeWitt Scott book, Basic C6... was recommended by many, but I found it wanting. He spends quite a bit of time on music theory: staff notation, tablature, chord construction, etc. ... which may be unnecessary for you, as it was for me. What was necessary was much more on the mechanics of blocking and slants ... little on the former and almost nothing on the latter.

The Stacy Phillips book The Art of Hawaiian Steel Guitar is very well done: lots of background info, and very explicit tabs. However, most of it is for dobro G tuning GBDGBD, not C6.

What was useful to me: tabs in this forum, the videos on the Sierra Steel website: http://www.sierrasteels.com/lessons/lap-lessons.html, and mostly finding a teacher close by ... you can't ask a book or online video a question.

Good luck!!
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Jack Hanson


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San Luis Valley, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2016 4:12 am    
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Todd OToole wrote:
...a book or dvd to recommend for learning lap steel?

Doug Beaumier's two book/compact disc combos for 6-string C6 are hard to beat.
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Todd OToole

 

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Washington, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2016 5:40 pm    
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John and Jack, thank you! Is it true the person who does the lap steel licks on the spongebob show post here?!?!? I love the music on that show.
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Steven Pearce


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Port Orchard Washington, USA
Post  Posted 3 Dec 2016 9:04 pm     Magnatone
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Todd, you can't go wrong with Magnatones! Good choice.

Frank James, you're right about those hand rests, I played O'l Blue for so long
with that rest, that I had to make em for my newer Gretsch steels



The center was the first one I did, just a rubber pad. The one on the right is new, got
a little nicer look with wood, especially since my wife did the finish on it. "Thanks Honey"
Last thing... I make new nuts for them with that 3/8s string spacing like the Magnatone.
Old habits...just hang around!

Good Luck Todd!
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Bill Leff


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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
Post  Posted 4 Dec 2016 6:20 pm    
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Charles Stange wrote:
"Nioma" = National Institute Of Music and Arts. I have a 1930's Nioma Resonator Guitar purportedly built by Regal..


Did you buy it from Grypon in Palo Alto? They had one there for a couple of years that I really liked a lot.
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David M Brown


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Post  Posted 5 Dec 2016 5:24 am    
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Bill Leff wrote:
Charles Stange wrote:
"Nioma" = National Institute Of Music and Arts. I have a 1930's Nioma Resonator Guitar purportedly built by Regal..


Did you buy it from Grypon in Palo Alto? They had one there for a couple of years that I really liked a lot.


I got my Nioma off Ebay.

It seems there are a lot of these Dickerson/Magnatone steels on Ebay and most sell for low prices, particularly the rebranded ones.
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Jim Smerk


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2016 8:53 pm    
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Jack Hanson wrote:
Todd OToole wrote:
...a book or dvd to recommend for learning lap steel?

Doug Beaumier's two book/compact disc combos for 6-string C6 are hard to beat.


Thumbs Up for Mr. Doug! Tho his books are NOT "lessons" the tunes are fun to play, and as you make music you will get inspired to play more....and in the beginning that is what keeps me interested. Cool
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Bill Creller

 

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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 5 Jan 2017 4:17 am    
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Old Magnatones are great sounding instruments !! Very Happy
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