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Topic: 1964 Emmons Redbelly Wraparound #6 built for Neil Flanz |
Barrett Williams
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 4:47 pm |
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$12,500 takes it.
I purchased this guitar in September of 2014 and regretfully must now sell. Details are below:
- Wraparound necks, serial #6. Original red flocking and mica.
- Built in August 1964 (serial 864006)
- 9 pedal 4 knee, Emmons Setup
- Originally a stereo guitar, converted in 1965 by the Emmons Guitar Co (necks and pickups). Fretboards are from '64.
- The guitar featured on Neil's album cover
- Original Emmons case, in good shape for its age
- I am the 5th owner
Guitar plays like a dream. Smooth pedal action, tone to die for. This guitar really is special.
I hate to be "that guy" and not post a price, but interested parties can contact me for details. A guitar like this comes along once in a lifetime. It's been sitting in its case too long and it deserves to be used. Thanks!!
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Franklins, Zums, Emmonseses, Webbs
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Damir Besic
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 5:46 pm
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Ditto on what Damir said. That is a very early changer on that guitar, very nice guitar. Would love to try that one out! 
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Abe Levy
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California, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 6:03 pm
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That is painfully beautiful...
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Bobby Boggs
From:
Upstate SC.
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 6:09 pm
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I'm the first to agree that for sale adds are no place for a discussion. That said. Since Mr. Williams failed to address my questions in the add. ( Probably just and oversight.) I've never seen the undercarriage of a 64. Is it all original? Or at least 64 Emmons time period parts? Or are their some after market parts?
There's only a hand full of guys here that would know for sure. I won't call any names. Anyone want to step up? P.M. if you'd rather not post.
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Barrett Williams
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 7:15 pm
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Thanks for the read. Do you know if this happened? From looking at the under carriage pictures I want to guess not. If it did. Should be one of your strongest selling points. Just my opinion. Thanks for your time and info.
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Ive spoken today to the buyer of the one pictured above who has commissioned me to restore it for him.
Its a job I look forward to.
sincerely,
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Barrett Williams
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 7:17 pm
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Bobby... I do not think so. Thanks!
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Lefty
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Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 17 Nov 2016 8:43 pm
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I would venture to say this is the guitar played with Gram Parsons and Emmylou during the Fallen Angel tour. That alone should add value.
What a great sound and great player.
regards,
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 18 Nov 2016 8:25 am
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Neil was playing a ShoBud on that tour...
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John Macy
Rockport, TX
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Lefty
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Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 18 Nov 2016 1:06 pm
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No Sho-Bud in the pictures that I have seen.
I know the short period that Ben Keith was with them he played a ShoBud.
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 18 Nov 2016 1:40 pm
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I was there for all six nights at Oliver's in Boston on that tour, and it was a Bud...
I also double checked with Neil and he said "Sho-Bud Guitar and Sho-Bud amp (solid state) built by Ken Cain from San Antonio."...
Man, would I love that guitar!
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John Macy
Rockport, TX
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Lefty
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Grayson, Ga.
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Posted 18 Nov 2016 2:22 pm
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Whatever he played he always sounded like Neil.
What a terrific player!
Lefty |
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John Macy
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Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 18 Nov 2016 3:22 pm
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That's right for sure! Great guy and a treasure chest on steel guitar knowledge! Might have to go buy a lottery ticket!
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John Macy
Rockport, TX
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2016 10:54 am
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It is amazing to me that Buddy and Ron could design a guitar in or about 1964 that continued beyond 1981 keeping so much of the original design. How could they come up with such a perfect design that could go thru so little change for all those years? I have owned many guitars and have several. A wraparound is the one guitar that I will always wish that I could have acquired but I am sure it can never happen. Absolutely awesome!!
Jerry
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Nov 2016 4:43 pm
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Jerry, the guitar design went through many changes from 1963 through August 1964. Actually the four guitars made after this Six were very different as they were wraparound boltons with wood necks and very different pickups. I think number Six was the first guitar with pull rod hooks. The Emmons guitar became kinda standardized after number 14 in November, if I recall. Mike Cass did the work on that guitar, just as he has on the other 1964 guitars-- numbers 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20. I may have missed some in there.
No I was wrong. Mike turned down this project. He did not work on this guitar.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 20 Nov 2016 8:12 am
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I would love to own this one no matter who did the work. Mr Lucker has seen more of Mikes work than I. But this don't look like Mike's roding to me. Example. No compression spring on pedal one?? Other little things I won't get into. I'm not here to discourage anyone from buying or to argue which PP tech is best. I'm just stating my opinion, which very well may be wrong.
Best of luck to Mr. Williams, and upstanding guy, and a good sport for allowing the discussion on his add to educate myself and others not familiar with pre 66 Emmons guitars.
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Herb Steiner
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Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 21 Nov 2016 5:44 am
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| Jerry, the guitar design went through many changes from 1963 through August 1964. Actually the four guitars made after this Six were very different as they were wraparound boltons with wood necks and very different pickups. I think number Six was the first guitar with pull rod hooks. The Emmons guitar became kinda standardized after number 14 in November, if I recall. Mike Cass did the work on that guitar, just as he has on the other 1964 guitars-- numbers 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 20. I may have missed some in there. |
You missed number 1264018, Chris. He did mine, and also 1219, my black belly. Mike has actually done all the 64's and 65's I've owned... 7, 8, 18, 23, 1219, 2137, and 2185
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Doug Jones
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Oregon & Florida
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Posted 21 Nov 2016 5:59 am
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| Interesting neck selector switch. |
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 21 Nov 2016 8:40 am
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Yes, I thought that also. But didn't say anything. I realize the original necks and stereo pickups where changed. Is that the type neck selector used in 64-65 for non stereo Emmons guitars? Just trying to educate myself.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 21 Nov 2016 9:54 am
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At one time I owned #7 and #8 and they both had the commonly seen 3-hole control panel.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 24 Nov 2016 7:47 pm
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Herb, I messed up. I thought you had 19, not 18.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 25 Nov 2016 2:13 pm
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How many wrap around D-10's were made? Just courteous.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Barrett Williams
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 29 Nov 2016 1:38 pm
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| How many wrap around D-10's were made? Just courteous. |
Roughly 40 D10s.
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 29 Nov 2016 2:38 pm
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| Barrett Williams wrote: |
| Henry Matthews wrote: |
| How many wrap around D-10's were made? Just courteous. |
Roughly 40 D10s. |
Barrett
How did you arrive at that figure?
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
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