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Ron Gordon

 

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Post  Posted 3 Aug 2016 4:33 pm    
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So an end came off of a rod.

I tried pushing it back on and seemed to work until I played a bit.

Do these fit back on or did I break a piece?

thanks!


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Ron Gordon

 

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Post  Posted 3 Aug 2016 10:32 pm     popped a rod end
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Not sure if it's correct, but I just stuck the rod end back on, tapped it once or twice and works fine after adjusting everything...

It's a blast to work on this steel and am learning a lot.

2 pedals were hitting the floor but raising them up set everything out of whack.

Two hours later after trial and error, playing with the rods and the barrels and backing out the pedal and lever tuners on the side, I finally have it all tuned up and ready to go.

Biggest learning curve on this time around was to be sure the end tuners were loose before adjusting the barrels on the rods and the pedal rod height adjustments.

Then I could use the end tuners to dial everything in.

I have to say the pedal steel is an ingenuous piece of engineering!

Thanks for everyone's help.
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Michael Yahl


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Post  Posted 4 Aug 2016 4:46 am    
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Ron, I have replacement rods.

http://psgparts.com/Pull-Rod-Set-Cut-to-Fit-Socket-Head-RODSET-C2F-SOCK.htm
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 4 Aug 2016 5:09 am    
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Michael--is that supposed to be welded on? I'm thinking that just popping it back onto the rod is waiting for it to pop back off (at the wrong time!)
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Michael Yahl


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Post  Posted 4 Aug 2016 6:05 am    
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They are crimped on. Unfortunately after years of tweaking and perhaps some over tightening, they sometimes become loose as the aluminum rod is softer than the hardened socket head and the crimp works loose.

You can use a center punch and add a new crimp on both sides or use some epoxy steel to re-secure it.
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Ron Gordon

 

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Post  Posted 4 Aug 2016 8:03 am    
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yes, I definitely overtightened.

As mentioned above I know now to move the barrel on the rod and loosen the nut afterwards rather than just tighten the nut for adjustments that are greater than the nut can do by itself.

These ends seem to be "crimped" on the inside with little metal pieces that gather around the rod so putting it on the end and tapping it seemed to be fine as long as I didn't introduce too much tension again.

FYI, looking back, I could hear that the strain was building, almost like breaking a string when it's overtightened, I just didn't know what I was listening for.

Double pulls on that rod certainly complicated the issue, but I'm getting the hang of it.

It is giving me a better understanding of the instrument and I do think that it will make me a better player.

That said, it's all a delicate balance dialing it in and I wouldn't recommend trying it unless you're a pretty handy person.

But if you are handy, I do feel like the steel is more a part of me after working on it and I appreciate playing it more.

Thanks again for all of the advice.
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