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Topic: Tear Drop in C#m? |
Miles Lang
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Venturaloha
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Posted 25 Jul 2016 9:13 am |
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Does anybody have some TAB for S&J's Tear Drop" in Santo's original key of C#m7?
I think Basil's version of C#m7 (at least for the top 6) of C#-E-G#-B-C#-E (lo to high) sounds the closest to Santo |
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Miles Lang
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Venturaloha
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Posted 26 Jul 2016 9:30 am
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It's a taking some work, but I'm really starting to dig this tuning.
Crud, now I need a triple neck for all my tunings!  |
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Miles Lang
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Posted 27 Jul 2016 3:11 pm Re: Tear Drop in C#m?
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| Miles Lang wrote: |
Does anybody have some TAB for S&J's Tear Drop" in Santo's original key of C#m7?
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256 views and no one even has a hint? |
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Frank Welsh
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Posted 27 Jul 2016 4:26 pm
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Michael, the original key is F. I don't have tab but I play it note for note like the original in C#m7. Santo used, from high to low- E-C#-G#-E-C#-B-G#-E for his eight string tuning for Tear Drop, Sleepwalk, Caravan and many of his other hits.
The first note is on the fourth string at the 8th fret.
The second note(s) are strings one and two together at the 8th fret.
The third note is on the first string at the 10th fret.
The fourth note(s) are on strings 1, 2 and 3 together at the first fret.
The harmonic slide starts on the first string at the third fret and slides up to frets 6, 9 and 12.
Repeat all of the above. You should be able to play the rest by ear - very simple really.
For what it's worth, Santo's other tunings were A6th (heard on their Hawaiian album) and E7th "just for effect" according to Santo in a "Guitar Player" interview.
Good luck...let us know how you made out with this tune...I bet you nail it - it is a simple but beautifully haunting melody |
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Miles Lang
From:
Venturaloha
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Posted 27 Jul 2016 6:00 pm
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Thank you so much, Frank!
That F chord at 1 helps a lot. I wasn't shifting far enough, and the harmonies weren't lining up.
My pal Shorty Poole showed me that the backwards strum Gm chord is straight across at 6, and then back to 3 for the start of the harmonic slide.
The rest of it I think I have.
With this tuning, it's easy to see how Santo really thought horizontally along the strings rather than vertically across. I want to tackle All Night Diner once I get Tear Drop down. I'm a Santo & Johnny freak. |
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Frank Welsh
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Posted 28 Jul 2016 10:14 am
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Miles (not Michael!!) - Your comment about that backwards Gm rake on the 6th fret got me thinking about how Santo was able to play that Gm chord and then immediately start the harmonic slide.
I always assumed the slide was done on the first string since the "Sleepwalk" slide used the first string and the first string has the tonal and sustain advantage for such slides. I never pursued that Gm rake in "Teardrop" since I wasn't even sure Santo was doing it (it almost sounds like an organ was used).
My current take is that the harmonic slide is done on the SECOND string on frets 6, 9, 12, and 15 and is easily and quickly done since the bar is already on the 6th fret for that Gm chord. Clever Santo!
Try it out this way. I now believe this is how Santo did it, just like the "Sleepwalk" harmonic slide was done when the bar was already in place at the third fret.
I'm glad you solved an ancient puzzle for me about that Gm rake.
By the way, I play steel guitar because of "Sleepwalk." |
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Miles Lang
From:
Venturaloha
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Frank Welsh
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Posted 29 Jul 2016 4:06 am
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I see that Shorty starts the harmonic slide on the first string, just as I always supposed it was done. It does require you to move fast after raking that Gm chord.
Too bad there are so few videos of Santo & Johnny playing...we might have figured out some of Santo's "secrets." |
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Miles Lang
From:
Venturaloha
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Posted 29 Jul 2016 11:03 am
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| Frank Welsh wrote: |
I see that Shorty starts the harmonic slide on the first string, just as I always supposed it was done. It does require you to move fast after raking that Gm chord.
Too bad there are so few videos of Santo & Johnny playing...we might have figured out some of Santo's "secrets." |
I know, right?
I tried it both ways, and I guess I can hit the harmonic on the E string easier - it's the same harmonic as Sleep Walk. My hand is trained to get there. I gotta look it find it on the 19th fret of the C# (2nd) string |
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