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Allan Haley

 

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Post  Posted 12 Jul 2016 1:51 pm    
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Hi steelers,

To play 6 chords on the E9, I have been lowering the Es. Let’s say lowering Es 8th fret to play G6. Also, I saw Troy teaching using AB pedals playing 87654 on 10th fret to play G6. I think the 1 string also gives a 6.
Are these the positions you use to get a 6 chord on the E9?
Are there other positions you use?

Thank you for any guidance you can give.

Al
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2016 1:55 pm    
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I usually just substitute a minor chord for the 6th.
G 6th is: G B D E. I substitute an E minor: E G B.
Or if it calls for a D, I play a straight G chord.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 12 Jul 2016 2:43 pm    
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See my short tutorial link below. It shows for example the 6th scale notes with pedals one and two activated.


http://www.gregcutshaw.com/C6th%20On%20E9th/C6th%20On%20E9th.html


"Comments About Note Pockets


Pocket 1

This is just pedals 1 and 2 activated and on the chart below is shown in the key of C at the 3rd fret. On E9th this gives you 8 notes of the C6 scale, 6 of which line up with the top 6 strings of the standard C6 tuning, G,E,C,A,G,E high to low."
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Tim Sergent

 

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Hendersonville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 6:50 am    
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Try to find Buddy Emmon's E9 Expedition. I think it only came out on cassette. He does a version of I Love You Because on the E9th neck that's very 6th-y sounding
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Jim Palenscar

 

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Oceanside, Calif, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 6:54 am    
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Expo E9 is available in CD format w tab.
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Tim Sergent

 

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Hendersonville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 6:57 am    
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Cool! That's good to know. Thanks Jim. I wore my cassette out years ago.
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 13 Jul 2016 9:12 am    
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On the E9, the ninth that gives it its name (F#) becomes the 6th when you depress A & B, and A6 is a recognised non-pedal tuning. And then you have the C6-type chords got from lowering the Es. So plenty of choice!
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Gabriel Stutz

 

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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2016 1:42 pm    
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Maybe you know this one already - it's kind of just a restatement of what Erv says, but you can just use your A pedal to raise your B string (the 5th of the open E chord) to C# (the 6th of the open E chord)- it's the same as C# minor chord. You can throw in the low D and have I nice E13th chord, too.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 14 Jul 2016 1:46 pm    
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Now we're talking!
What's the combination for a demented chord? Whoa!
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 14 Jul 2016 4:13 pm    
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Here's 3 tunes played on the E9th pedal steel using no pedal movement (just static tuning changes) and just the 6th positions covered in my tutorial above:


http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Samples/Sand.wma

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Samples/Beyond%20The%20Reef.wma

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Samples/Song%20Of%20The%20Islands.wma

Rhythm tracks are located here:

http://www.gregcutshaw.com/Tab/Tab19.html
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 15 Jul 2016 7:22 am    
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Greg,
Sand is a tricky song to play on E9th as it was originally written for B11th.
You did it up right nicely. Very Happy
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Tom Beck


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Farmington Missouri
Post  Posted 15 Jul 2016 2:20 pm    
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Erv, Root- flat 3rd- flat fifth (diminished chord) But I never think of it that way. I think of it as either minor-flat five, or seven flat nine, depending on how I'm using it.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 16 Jul 2016 7:02 am    
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Tom,
Demented not diminished. Whoa!
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 18 Jul 2016 3:55 pm    
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Visualize the intervals and the position possibilities will just jump up at you and if you know your pedals and levers you can see all the possibilities.

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Lane Gray


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Topeka, KS
Post  Posted 19 Jul 2016 5:11 am    
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Tom Beck wrote:
Erv, Root- flat 3rd- flat fifth (diminished chord) But I never think of it that way. I think of it as either minor-flat five, or seven flat nine, depending on how I'm using it.

Or take a major chord and raise the root.
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Tom Beck


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Post  Posted 20 Jul 2016 6:34 am    
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That was my point Lane. Take a C7 chord, raise the root, it's a C7 flat-9. I just think in terms of the altered note only.
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