Paradise Isle"----C# minor

Al Marcus · From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)

George , thanks for the info on "the Moon of Monakura". I saw the 1937 Movie of "Hurrricane" and heard Dorothy Lamour sing the song. I was about 15 years old at the time and promptly fell in love with her, Ha ha. And I loved that "Hawaiian music". I played guitar and had just started on the wooden hawaiian guitar...ah..memories....al

George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

Al, I earlier mentioned that the island of "Manakoora" doesn't exist. I think your "Monakura" will be even harder to find on the map! (ha!) Just kidding, of course. I also think you must have been at the back of the line of 'lovers' when it came to Dorothy Lamour. I was at the head of the line, falling madly in love with her, the movie and particularly that beautiful song. I still view that old movie on my video and it brings back many wonderful memories including a totally impossible adolesent love affair! (Like you, I was just an impressionable kid when that movie came out). Those were wonderful days, were they not ? Oh, I managed to find my own "Dorothy Lamour" and we've been together for 49 years.

Jody Carver · From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED

George,,,,Dorothy Lamour ?? who was she? I
thought it was Norma Shearer,,or Jeanette Mc Donald,,,,or was it Betty Hutton??

Maybe Warner Baxter was the "guy singin the lead,,,,bak up group was comprised of Peter Lorre, James Cagney, Humphrey Bogart,,and the leader and steel player was Sidney Greenstreet,,,,,,correct me if im wrong,,,forgot ,,it was Boris Karloff on Bass
and Bela Lugosi on Ukelele....what a group..

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Paul Graupp · From: Macon Ga USA

Jody; You've got me worried.....How did you get all those girls mixed up like that ? Norma Shearer would have been much too young to go back that far. I seen her the other day on the Lawrence Welk Show. And Jeanette McD run off to Canada with a RCMP named Gordon McRae long before they saw the Moon Over Manakooru. And wasn't the other one Bette Grable and not Betty Hutton ? One of them was a poster girl for WWII GIs but I was too young them to remember which one.

And everyone knows Sidney Greenstreet played violin from the time he was 39. I don't think the steel guitar was invented yet when he came on the scene. But I do recall Peter Lorre. He had a record about a witch where they put the mike in the toilet and flushed it. It used his cackling laugh all the way thru the recording. What a witch he must have been !!

BTW....I'm told that James Cagney used to record under another name like Hank Wms and Luke the Drifter did. They may have even got the idea from Cagney. The alias he used was Jimmy Dorsey !!

Paul

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George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

Paul and Jody...you're both just too much! I think the guys in the white smocks with the padded jackets are heading your way so watch out!! (ha!) Oh, and by the way, it was Betty Grable who was the WW2 pinup girl...also the wife, (one of many), of Harry James. Now don't go asking "who was Harry James?" !

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Paul Graupp · From: Macon Ga USA

George: I remember Harry James !! But I think we have another imposter on our hands.
I went over to the Live 365 page and was listening to the Hotclub of America and this guy who says his name is Jody Carver is really, I think, the one who played with Jimmy Bryant on lead guitar back in the 50s. He's the one I mentioned earlier as having played Moon Over you know what and did such a pretty work on it. Haven't we always thought there is only ONE person who can make the bar dance like that ?? So if there is only ONE than he has got to be that ONE.

My early love of Hawaiian sounds came off my father's zither. I found the chimes first and then the slide, with a flashlight battery. And here I am, 56 years later listening to Jody playing beautiful chime passages on The Third Man Theme; originally played on a zither. What can I say. I'm lost for words; the music is so pretty !!
I'm a kid again back on the green hills of eastern Pennsylvania. He is such a sentimental old friend !

Regards, Paul

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George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

Up here in yonder North, I gotta confess once again I had never heard, or heard of some character by the name of Jody Carver. My total loss in life! Jody recently e-mailed me and he comes across as a guy whom I'd be mighty proud to have as a close friend. I recently heard some of his stuff through this FORUM site, and he blew me away! What a musician. Now you have really peaked my curiosity...I have not heard his "Third Man Theme" but can well imagine his fine artistry on that tune.

Paul Graupp · From: Macon Ga USA

George: Over in the Music Forum there is a thread about Internet Radio, Do You Listen.
One of the posts therein gives a link to the Hotclub of America and you would have to listen to the songs from the album as they rotate until you come to the Third Man Theme.
BTW, I was sorry to see you missed BE when he came to Edmonton. He is surely an act to remember!! Regards, Paul

Jody Carver · From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED

Hey Paul & George,,,I deleted my previous post,,,I didnt like what I posted. No it wasn't bad,,,,just seemed stupid of me.

Appreciate your nice comments,,,Paul I hould be 1/10th as good as the fellow who played with Jimmy Bryant,,,he was great. Now I have 3 people on this Forum who liked what I did back then,,,the two of you and David Van Allen who resurected(spell right?) that old
long deleted LP,,,,Thanks anway....but I am far from being in a class as Jimmy Bryants
partner...Im more like a Bela Lugosi type..I have to get get into my "tweed Fender case" by sunup.....Thanks anyway,,,,

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Paul Graupp · From: Macon Ga USA

Nawwww Jody !! You can't get off that easy !
This was my first listen through the Hot Club and my ears are as good as they ever were. I am not saying he didn't or couldn't, but I have never heard the other guy do the bar dance as fast as you do. How did you do that ?? I used to hold the bar off the strings and use my right hand to chatter it against the strings. but never that fast.

And I have heard him do string clicks here and there but never whole extended passages and on top of that, in harmony too. What is the word they use when violin players pluck the strings instead of bowing them ? Pitzicado (sp??). That is what you were doing and I don't know of anyone else who does that.

I think the whole Forum knows I'm a Jerry Byrd Fan. But your version of Limehouse Blues brought out the goose bumps and gave me an entire new outlook on the song.

And the other guy never used the tone control as well as you. Did you have a Fender foot volume/tone pedal ? Even if you did, I don't see how you could do it so fast.

Nawwwww Jody Carver..... You Da Man !!

Regards, Paul

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Jody Carver · From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED

Paul,,,you are much too kind,,,commenting what you did.. Someone who shall be nameless
reffered to by bar crashes and rapid chatter effects if thats what they are called...commented that,,,that was not true steel guitar playing,,,,,but rather like a
"machine gun" his comments were not at all
complimentary,,,,but he is entitled to his opinion.

I have made tapes for you and you will hear the machine gun again,,,not as rapid fire as it was then,,,but pretty close..

Thank you as well George I appreciate your compliments,,I dont get many these days.

I think this thread has turned into a George
Paul & Jody thread.....others may be bored.
I do appreciate it though,,,,,Jody I will send you some Arthur Godfrey tapes as well..
you will hear 1955 bar chatters,,when I was young...now my teeth chatter when I think of how young I was.......will mail to you I
promise,,,,,,,

Rick Collins · From: Claremont , CA USA

You players with so much "time in grade" have really given me an education with this thread. I love the Hawaiian style. It would have been great to have been alive when it was at it's height of popularity.

I'm trying to develope my own style of playing,___Jerry Byrd touch with a higher staccato sound. It's a long road ahead, I know, and I probably will not get there; but I'm enjoying the ride.

Rick

Paul Graupp · From: Macon Ga USA

Rick: It's not the destination that's important. It's the journey !! I'm sure you will enjoy it just as we all have in our own ways.

Regards, Paul

George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

Main thing Rick...play like Rick Collins. It's o.k. to copy the odd riff or trick from experts...we all do. But in the end, It's ORIGINALITY which counts IMHO. Also, what Paul mentioned (above) is darned good advice.

Jody Carver · From: KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED

Paul & George
I got most of my influence from Arthur Treacher,,,he played great steel,,,and was a great butler as well.

I think however it was Edward G.Robinson that played uke on the original sound track of Moon Of Manakoora.
His big cigar caused many problems as the cigar smoke got into Treachers eyes,,,and then they wrote" Smoke gets In Your Eyes"

Arthur quit the steel ,,,went to work with Merv Griffin and then opened all those Fish and Chips "franchises" is that what you wanted to know??? Thought I would fill you in.

What do you think ,,,anyhow?? Im just as smart as Jason Odd,,,,,

George Keoki Lake · From: Edmonton, AB., Canada

Sorta reminds me of the steel guitarist Art Gumm...remember him ? He had a great band and recorded an equally great hit song.

"Art Gumm and his Rubber Band play Eraseable You!"

Gads, how did all this come about from "Paradise Isle" ?

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