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Topic: How would you approach a tune like "Move It On Over" on E9? |
Jim Fogarty
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Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2016 3:36 pm |
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Ok.......so I'm past the shame and humiliation of my first steel appearance and ready to do it again. Brave or stupid!? BOTH!! Dragging the beast out to my roots/classic rock band gig this next weekend.
One of the tunes suggested was Hank's "Move It On Over" (in E). We do it slightly more uptempo and rockabilly, but it still has the basic feel, which is a little more swing/C6-y than what I know so far on E9. Any of what I know....which is basic mashing AB and simple Mooney/Brumley-isms......doesn't quite fit. Not bad, but not totally in the bag.
Any suggestions or things to try?
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 13 Jun 2016 3:45 pm
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For stuff like that, I'd keep A&B engaged and stick to strings 4 5 6 7 8 & 10 (if you can lower your D to a C# you can play it on 4 - 9) which is A6.
Alternatively, lower your E's and play it in B6.
If you want it to sound authentic, no pedal mashing!
Last edited by Jeff Mead on 14 Jun 2016 6:41 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Mike DiAlesandro
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Kent, Ohio
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Posted 13 Jun 2016 3:56 pm
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| Jeff Mead wrote: |
Alternatively, lower your E's and play it in B6.
If you want it tou sound authentic, no pedal mashing! |
That's my approach, just avoid the 9th string and you have nice 6th chords all night long, when you get to the V chord (B7), play strings 9, 6, and 5 on the 7 fret, with your A pedal down to get a nice B13th chord as a substitute. |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 13 Jun 2016 5:15 pm
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Jim, I couldn't get a Highway 40 Blues video that I liked this weekend, but I think I got something helpful for this one. It's uploading now, watch my channel about 9 pm for the new video. (my youtube channel at www.youtube.com/steelguitarlane if you don't already know it)
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 13 Jun 2016 5:33 pm
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https://youtu.be/LwnwkGyhEiE
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Henry Matthews
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Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 5:55 am
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When all else fails, play the melody.
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 5:57 am
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What Jeff said! 
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 7:36 am
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Henry, while I agree with using the melody as a departure point (and trusting my departures not to go too far), Jim had expressed interest in acquiring more of the standard bag of stock vocabulary. At least that's how I read it.
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Bud Angelotti
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Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 8:10 am
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I Jim - I would take a different approach to whats been suggested.
I would avoid all pedals and comp chords and use the 9th, 6th, and 5th string to play backing chord. When the change comes, move the bar 5 frets or 7 frets whatever it is with the same 9th, 6th, and 5th string.
The band is rocking out at this point right? Like the Destroyers? Back off and comp chords. If they give you a ride, take it and don't hold back.
If they are playing it country styles, more like Hank, then yes, what has been suggested is good.
I try not to compete if the band is rocking out with backing chords. Then, again if it's rock instead of "country", just lose yourself in a wild solo. You don't have to play lots of notes either. just try to "lose yourself".
Have fun!
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 5:16 pm
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E7 = Fret-5 with E's lowered and the B-pedal (you can rock on off the B-pedal). This how Uni players might do it.
Move this position to fret-10 for and A7, and fret-12 for a B7.
A7 = Use your regular E9 fret-5 A7 with string 9.
B7 = Move the A7 up two frets to fret-7. |
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Mark Wayne
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 6:37 pm
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Good move, Pete. I do that alot.
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2016 7:12 pm
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Yeah when I get on an S10 I like to go to that E's lowered position for songs like this, mainly on strings 8,7,6,5.
I don't release the E's when I go to the A7 (a uni player thing), just move the thumb to string 9, and pic 6,5 with index/middle.
With E's lowered at fret-5, 8,6,5 is E6, and becomes E7 with B-pedal.
9,6,5 is A7, 2 frets up to B7. |
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Bud Angelotti
From:
Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2016 3:41 am
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Rock around the clock. 
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2016 8:10 am
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Lane,
I like what you did pretty good. Thanks for sharing.
You ever tab any of the stuff out ??
Thanks,
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Kevin Raymer
Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 15 Jun 2016 8:17 am
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I haven't. But I could try. I have tab paper
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Kevin Raymer
From:
Chalybeate, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2016 7:00 pm
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I have better luck working through stuff from tab.
But video and tab together is the bomb !!
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Kevin Raymer
Zum / Knaggs / Breedlove
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Jim Fogarty
From:
Phila, Pa, USA
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Posted 19 Jun 2016 1:22 pm
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Thanks so much, all.....
Did the tune on our gig last night, and it went real well. I ended up taking two solos, and the first one I used some of Lane's cool ideas from his video (thanks again for that, bud! You rock!). After that, I switched to backup and then another solo, dropping the E's with LKR and using 6th sounds. Since I played C6th Lap steel for a bit before the PSG, I found some nice stuff that was familiar.
All in all, I hardly embarassed myself much at all!! |
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Bob Watson
From:
Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
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Posted 20 Jun 2016 1:17 am
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| In the key of C, for the C I would lower the E's and play strgs 10,8,7,6,5 and 4 ( in groups of 3 notes )on the 1st fret, same strings on the 3d fret with the A and B pedals down ( you can also lower 9, as was mentioned before). On the F, I would play the 1st fret with stgs 9,6 and 5 or on the 6th fret with strgs 8,6 and 5 (you can also use stg 7 if you want to rake the stgrs)with the E's lowered and the A and B pedal down (9th chord), or the 8th fret with stgrs 10,8,7,6, 5 and 4. On the G I would use strgs 9,6 and 4 on the 3d fret or go to the 15 fret with the A pedal down using strings 6,5,4 or 543, you can also go down to the 13th fret with the same strings and pedal. I hope this helps. |
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