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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 12:41 am    
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I am going to lay my old Sho-bud Pro-1 up for a while (basically use it much less often). Me and my wife live in a small flat and space is always at a premium. I have always stored my steels (week to week) in their cases, laying down - which takes up a bit of space. Is there any problem storing a Shobud in its case standing up on the changer end, do you think? I wouldn't be so worried about some guitars like GFIs or welded frame guitars, but I am a bit worried about the good old classic wood frame with screwed-on end plates arrangement on the 'bud. Do I worry too much?
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 2:01 am    
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If I were to stand it on end, I would stand it on the key head (tuning keys) end rather than the changer end.

When I transport my Franklin standing up on a hand cart, it is on the key head end, never on the changer end.
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Tommy Auldridge


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 3:15 am     Why?
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Jack: Why that end, instead of the other? I move my P/P Emmons guitars around on a hand truck, standing on the changer end. And I store them that way all the time. Thanks, Tommy......
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John Booth


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 3:19 am    
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I'm probably missing something here, but when I move my steels on a hand truck I always do-so
with the heavier changer end down. Same when I store it due to limited space.

It seems to me you'd want the weight closer to the floor rather than have that weight stressing
the entire length of the guitar. I'm curious what y'all think.
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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 3:41 am    
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I would store 'bud changer end down because its case has a separate compartment at the keyhead end which I stash my volume pedal in, and I figure that would be weaker than the other end of the case. I would check that none of the nylon tuners protrude out the end of the guitar if I was to rest it on that end
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Jack Stoner


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 3:57 am    
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My Franklin has the neck switch mounted on the changer end, like most Sho-Bud's. The case has space and blocks on the changer end to protect the switch in the case, but just for extra precaution I do it on the key head end. I've always done that, even when I had a PP Emmons that didn't have a switch on the end.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 4:56 am    
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Make sure your case has no rough spots or protruding metal.
My Zum has probably done 500,000 miles in a semi on end, and the keyhead end has a divot.
I'm not sure which end matters. Just make sure it can't move.
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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 5:27 am    
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Thanks for all the input (so far) - sounds like I can stash it quietly in my spare room on its end (either end)
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 11:16 am    
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you worry too much.
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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 3:41 pm    
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Yup, I reckon I do
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Lynn Stafford


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 4:02 pm     Guitar Storage
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You folks are probably not going believe this but it's a true story.

Recently a guy here in Portland purchased a '79 Emmons from a private party somewhere else in the country. This guitar looked virtually un played and had obviously been stored in its case for a very long time, because the fret boards on both necks had slipped about 1/16" toward the front of the guitar! The weight of the steel fret boards (and possibly a overly warm environment) had caused them to slowly move over time. I had to very carefully remove and reset them both. I didn't want to damage them, as they still looked like new. I now wish I'd taken a photo of how it looked before I moved the fret boards but here is what it looks like now.



No, it's not available...I acquired it from the local guy and subsequently sold it to a lucky previous customer of mine in Texas.
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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 6:00 pm    
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I get that, Lynn. For a while, after the double sided tape on my 'bud's fretboard started giving way, and before I got around to putting new tape under there, my fretboard would fall off when the guitar was in its case (especially in summer). Man, I played a few gigs with that thing just bunged on there any old how (that put paid to any pre-occupation I might have had with micro-accurate fretboard placement!). During that period, I got into the habit of stashing the case flat, but upside down (so the guitar was facing right side up inside the case)
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Post  Posted 1 Jun 2016 7:27 pm     Storing steels on there end
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Jeremy. I agree with you the best way to store a steel is turn the case over so the guitar is face up and resting on the lower body edge all the way around. I am afraid of the pickup damage, If the pickups hang by their bolts to long. I have 2 stored that way. I store my spare steels under the bed I sleep in every night. That way if there is a roof leak or water leak I am aware of it quickly. I have heard of steels, And seen steels, That have been stored in isolated places where no person in the house goes every day, Being damaged by pluming leaks, roof leaks, or freak flooding of the storage area. If it is a short storage on its end should be OK, But long storage could cause damage to either the fret boards or pickups.
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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2016 1:05 am    
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Chris (Ivey) ... I love reading your replys Very Happy ...you tell it how it is Very Happy

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Jeremy Threlfall


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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2016 1:10 am    
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well, I asked precisely that question (the last five words of my initial post) ...
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 2 Jun 2016 7:00 am    
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it's true. jeremy answered his own question right at the beginniing.
and i suppose some good info has been offered as to certain conditions since then.
i actually shift the positions of mine occassionally if they're sitting forever.
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Eric Philippsen


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Post  Posted 3 Jun 2016 9:54 am    
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I have a number of Emmons and used to store them on-end. One day last year I pulled out one and the fretboard had shifted, undoubtedly due to the temperature where I kept it (I know). Fixing it was easy and took less than 5 minutes (not counting changing the strings). I slowly heated the board with a hair dryer set on low until the board could be slid back into place. No damage.
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