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Topic: Compressors: Origin Effects SlideRig users? |
Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 May 2016 8:42 am
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I'm planning on getting my first compressor pedal (yes, I've seen that a volume pedal is our unique compressor), and was wondering if anyone used the SlideRig - or any other - compressor regularly. I do a lot of music outside of country. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Stephen Abruzzo
From: Philly, PA
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Posted 16 May 2016 8:49 am
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Highly recommended on other Forums by those who play a lot of slide guitar. So, if you do a decent amount of rock/blues, this might be the ticket for your sound.
Definitely, gets one into Lowell George territory. |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 16 May 2016 8:54 am
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Thanks, Stephen. I'm not a 6-string guitar player, so Lowell George isn't my goal, BUT I saw that BJ Cole likes the SlideRig, and he's definitely been a looong time hero of mine. I do indeed play a fair amount of rockabilly/root rock (original) material, so perhaps this will be a good addition. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Doug Paluch
From: Michigan, USA
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Posted 17 May 2016 2:54 am
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I have one for my tele, and I can honestly say, that despite the cali76 being an amazing piece of equipment, i disliked what it did to my pedal steel. |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 May 2016 3:28 am
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I went with a SlideRig Deluxe, Doug - I'm not sure about the differences between that and a Cali76, but at any rate, it's returnable if it's not to my taste. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 17 May 2016 3:53 am
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Of the about a dozen guitar/bass "compressors" I have tested for PSG, 6-string and bass in the latest 10 years or so, only a Boss LMB-3 (bass limiter/enhancer) is still in my sound-chains. I have 3 of those - bought the last one (for further experimentations) only a few months ago.
When I don't set the LMB-3 for actual compression on PSG, it still serves as buffer (with eq) in front of a passive VP. |
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Chris Bauer
From: Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 17 May 2016 3:36 pm
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I love the SlideRig for guitar and occasionally for lap steel but I've never found a need for it on pedal steel. |
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Justin Jacobson
From: Rochester, MN
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Posted 18 May 2016 8:19 pm
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Dan,
I've had a sliderig for about a year and a half now.
I've experimented with it a lot but really have only loved it with regular guitar. It may be the only effect I have that I don't care for on my steel. I've tried so many times to love it but it has really brought out the poor side of the effects I use in tandem.
I still have it, and I keep fiddling cause I really want to love it. But if I'm playing steel it is usually off.
If you find some good settings for yours let me know, cause I really want to use this on the steel, but I can't get it to my taste yet. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/tower-4
ShoBud Pro2 - Strobostomp - POG2 - mojo hand iron bell - WMD Geiger Counter - EHX Freeze - Earth Drive - catalinbread pareidolia - fender volume/tone - boss dd-3 - behringer vibrato - boss bf-2 - boss dc-2 - neo ventilator - catlinbread echorec - strymon timeline - eventide space - fender blues deluxe |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 May 2016 11:48 am
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Thanks, all.
Justin: I'm not entirely sure about a compressor at all, though with the clean sound, it's an interesting take. Certainly sustains longer, something about the attack (at least where I've tried it) I like, but I'm not sure it's best with effects. It's pricey for something we may not really need. I still have plenty of time to return it, if I wish, so I may do a good amount of knob twisting soon. I use a Telonics volume pedal, and a dedicated buffer (with switch), so I don't really need another buffer (VP has one, I was told). _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 25 May 2016 12:07 pm
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As I understand it, it's essentially two compression circuits chained together with enough care that the noise doesn't bloom up and munch the music? It's a swell idea if needed, like a live rig where there's no engineer to really go in deep and futz with compression, but it is pertinent that tubes ARE compressors, speakers that are anywhere near capacity are compressors, just about any sort of "gain-staging" is going to be adding that too. I've read that Lowell George chained two Universal Audio LA-2 studio compressors, I also read that he chained two MXR Dynacomps together? I don't think those are both true facts (neither?)
I ALSO read that Duane Allman famously used an MXR Dynacomp with a run-down battery... as these were first marketed in 1972, that's quite a trick! No wonder they call them geniuses. |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 25 May 2016 12:30 pm
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I decided I really didn't need yet another pedal; the SlideRig seems like a very fine compressor, but I was finding it wasn't the best addition for pedal steel.
I wasn't looking for a Lowell George sound, just wanted to hear what a top-notch compressor could do. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 8:27 am
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So many effects, so little time! |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 8:43 am
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True, Erv, true.
When I first started playing out live, it was the height of country-rock. I used a Boss-Tone fuzz, and I thought it was awful. Thin, fed back as soon as I raised my volume. Got my MSA U12, with built in fuzz, which wasn't much better. (I will single out Retro Mechanical Labs, Fairfield Circuitry & Z Vex for superb dirt pedals that mesh with pedal steel).
It's been said that this is a Golden Age for effects, and I readily concur. I've tried pedals that I didn't care for, pedals that didn't cotton to the pedal steel's high output, and many pedals I now use.
Straight pedal steel is lovely, but pedals can open up another world.
And they keep on coming....
True, Erv, true. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 9:13 am
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I'm a sucker for effect pedals! If I read about a certain pedal long enough, I've just got to have it! |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 9:23 am
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Well, Erv, if you like various and sundry dirt pedals, you really need to check out the builders I just mentioned. I really don't care much for clones, but if a builder greatly expands an early favorite (the Stone Deaf Fig Fumb I have is such a version of the Big Muff), that's great. Fairfield and RML create their own designs, and I love what they do. Unique.
I've tried several analog delays, including the pricey Toneczar Echoczar (which seems to be great), but I've only been able to use digital ones with a lot of success (Empress Effects, Strymon, Pigtronix).
I may try a FC Accountant compressor, but I'm just not sure a comp is what pedal steel really needs. _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 9:45 am
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Daniel,
What I'm a real sucker for is organ effects. I play a lot of slow gospel music and like to add an organ effect every once in a while. I must have at least 10 different organ effects, always looking for just the right one. |
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Daniel Morris
From: Westlake, Ohio, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 10:02 am
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One of my bands got a nice opening slot.
The bass guitarist and I worked out a minor key intro to our set.
I used my POG 2 for an organ effect.
When we were finished playing, the sound man came up to me and said, "I had guitar, bass, drums and steel all checked, and the first thing I hear is an organ!!"
Messed him up a bit that night? _________________ 1979 MSA U12 Pedal Steel
1982 Kline U12 Pedal steel
2019 Sierra U12 Pedal Steel
2011 Bear Creek MK Weissenborn
Milkman 40W Mini amp w/Telonics 15" speaker.
Dr. Z Surgical Steel w/TT 15" speaker.
Frenzel MB-50 head.
Spaceman, Empress, Eventide, Pigtronix. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 11:04 am
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The steel is a good instrument to use an organ effect on because of the long sustain you can get with a steel. It is especially effective if you use a Leslie effect along with the organ effect. |
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Dave Meis
From: Olympic Peninsula, Washington, USA
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Posted 26 May 2016 11:33 am
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Every now and then I dial through the effects on my Stereo Steel with the M One XL processor (some of them, anyway..there's over 200 of them). Every type of comp., reverb, chorus, leslie, phasers, ad infinitum...and the parameters of both engines fully 'tweakable'.. run one or both together or split L and R.. By the time I'm done, I need a beer! |
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