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Scott McRee

 

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Post  Posted 20 May 2016 11:28 pm    
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So I gigged tonight with my pro reverb and just realized it's way to much to lug around and the weight in the road case is more than I wanthought to carry and I still struggled a bit with volume. I guess I could have really cranked it of it wanted.I love the warmth of tube Ampand though. Can anyone recommend to me some of the warmer sounding solid state amps that aren't too expensive etc. I know I can run a Blackbox in front of it etc but the amps like the Nashville 112 are just way too sterile for me. Any help and opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Scott
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 4:18 am    
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I'd get an old LTD and put a neo in it.
Roughly the same weight as a 112 (maybe even a little lighter), and infinitely better tone.
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John Sluszny

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 8:15 am    
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Lane Gray wrote:
I'd get an old LTD...

Hi Lane,what's an old LTD ? Thanks !
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Paul Sutherland

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 9:40 am    
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Do you really need to be transporting the Pro Reverb in a road case? If it's just you loading and unloading the amp from your own vehicle you should be able to do it safely. ATA level road cases add a lot of weight.

The other option is to buy or make a head cabinet for the Pro Reverb and split the load. That's what I've done with my Twin. It makes things a lot more manageable.
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Scott McRee

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 9:56 am     Pro reverb
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I don't need a road case but I am also looking to lighten things up a bit and get a smaller amp. Any recommendations as far as amps like telonics, Evans, music man, and anything else that maybe isn't so expensive would be great. Thanks.
Scott
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 10:29 am    
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you seem to be ignoring lane's answer. and he's right on!
peavey ltd 400 with a neo speaker of some type.
small light cheap and superior.
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Tom Cooper

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 11:21 am    
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I finally found a LTD400 and love it. You are on right track with black box. I went instead with a Frenzel dp1 tube pre with octal 6sl7s. It works wonders with any solid state amp and was only 300$. I got the octal upgrade, it is only 250 if u go with 12ax7. I just love octals. LTD is very cool amp. Transistors instead of opamp chips supposed to be warmer. Still the Frenzel is my secret weapon. Notes bounce of the strings, richer tone. You can really dial in a lot of tones. Keep front end tube and back end clean power. Really great way to go. Another amp is the Peavey Special 130. Two midrange controls, very handy for steel.
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Tom Cooper

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 11:24 am    
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Nash400 are too heavy and certain ones need speaker or mod.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 11:48 am    
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i like old nv400s. they're a bit heavier but great amps.
otherwise every country act wouldn't have used them for 2 or 3 decades.

and you can get ltds and nashvilles for around $300.
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Scott McRee

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 1:11 pm     Comparison
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Im not ignoring anyone. I want to hear a lot of opinions. Ive heard good things about a lot of amps and im not penny wise and pound foolish therefore if other people chime in and say there is another amp for a little more that is far better, then id like to hear that opinion as well. Chris you're telling me you'd put a Nashville 400 up against a telonics tca500? (I think that's what they're callex) I'm just curious. I dont knpw much about either. Obviously those are very expensive but I want to see where everyone is at, as far as their opinions on all of the amps. I'm not a solid state guy so it's hard for me because I want something that is still warm and that I can dial in etc. Hope that all makes sense. Thanks for the input and help guys.
Scott
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 1:39 pm    
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By LTD, I mean the Peavey amp also called the "LTD400" but 400 is nowhere in the front panel. It's the same circuit as the Session 400, but the cabinet is just large enough for the 15.
It's a bit smaller than the Nashville 400, but sounds better. It was made between 74 and 1981.
With a neo speaker, it'll be lighter than the 112.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 1:44 pm    
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The LTD is what I'm using here. The saturation is in the phone, not the amp. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6DC2fAOmOc
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Jim Park

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 1:52 pm    
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Another option is using a processor like a Line 6 or an Avid Eleven rack, plug into the PA and carry a small monitor. I have done this successfully in tight spaces, but will require some eq' ing to get the sound right.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 2:08 pm    
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i'm sure the telonics is great, but for as good as i'll ever be a $300 peavey is totally adequate. (and for most people if they want to be realistic about it)
i've never been rich and would never spend that kind of money on an amp.
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Jim Park

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 2:11 pm    
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Chris, you could make a Pignose amp sound good........
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John Sluszny

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 2:50 pm    
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Thank you again Lane.
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 21 May 2016 3:10 pm    
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Your Pro Reverb, if set up properly, will sound much better than any of the solid state amps mentioned. Ditch the road case.
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Scott McRee

 

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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 5:37 pm     Pro reverb
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My pro reverb is too heavy. Iv had it completely serviced and recapped and blackfaced and it's just not enough power for large bar gigs. Has anyone played a telonics and compared it to the quilter Steelaire or Evans or any others? Thanks
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 11:06 pm    
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The Milkman Half and Half is a hybrid tube amp that is very light and doesn't sound sterile and brittle. They are pretty amazing. I use mine for most all my gigs. Worth checking out.
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Bob Hoffnar


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Post  Posted 21 May 2016 11:22 pm     Re: Pro reverb
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Scott McRee wrote:
....... Has anyone played a telonics and compared it to the quilter Steelaire or Evans or any others? Thanks
Scott[/list]



I found those amps to be not acceptable at all compared to old Fenders or Milkman amps. Not in the same ballpark. If you love the sound of your pro reverb you may be very disappointed. There are lots of ways to go. Look at Sarno gear or even the Kemper modeling amps paired up with powered speakers.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 22 May 2016 12:10 am    
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Don't forget the Quilter Steelaire.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 22 May 2016 12:13 am    
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If you have the bucks, the Milkman Half and Half really is the bee's knees.
I, like Bob Hoffnar, have one and play one.
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 22 May 2016 7:46 am    
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The Milkman is fantastic, and very light…

Scott, you should come by and check out an amp I have for sale. Walker "Stereo Steel" MONO unit, one of very few he ever made, warm and full as all get out, light, and very powerful. You'll never run out of headroom no matter how loud the band!
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 22 May 2016 9:18 am    
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The Milkman is indeed a great amp. Jim Palenscar had both a Milkman and a Quilter in his shop. and Kevin Ryan and I compared them for an hour. One of us would play while the other tweaked the knobs.

Choosing between them was one of the most difficult decisions I ever made. Each time we'd try one, I'd say to myself that that was what I wanted.

I eventually chose the Quilter because it's got channel switching and the built in powered effect loop. But I'm still not sure it was the best possible choice.

If I had the bucks I would have bought both of them.
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Roger Crawford


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Griffin, GA USA
Post  Posted 22 May 2016 2:14 pm    
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Another Milkman Half and Half fan here.
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