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Topic: George L pickups |
Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 8 May 2016 8:52 am |
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Question :::
Are George L pickups known to be excessive on the treble end (too much high's) ??? |
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 8 May 2016 9:38 am
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I'd found the E-66es a little too brittle for my liking
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 8 May 2016 10:02 am
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Thank you Lane ...
Anybody else got an opinion ?
My friend is having this problem with his steel |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 8 May 2016 10:08 am
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I'd say turn around, mess with the amp knobs til it sounds good. If he's running Peavey, knock 6 dB off both highs and presence
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Philip Mitrakos
From:
The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 8 May 2016 10:48 am
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| Hes using a,bandit 100 watt amp jbl speaker and treble is set on 2 I told him to turn off the presence knob and I think hes using a digitech rp 100 effects prosser |
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Josh Yenne
From:
Sonoma California
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Posted 8 May 2016 9:45 pm
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| I hate those pickups. But it's all personal preference. The beautiful thing about pick ups is that they're not expensive just by putting your guitar try them if you like them keep them if not get rid of them it's a fun experiment |
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Danny Letz
From:
Old Glory,Texas, USA 79540
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Posted 9 May 2016 4:38 pm
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| I like the 10-1 pretty good. |
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Joseph Carlson
From:
Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 9 May 2016 7:19 pm
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| I had an E-66 and I really hated the tone of it. Brittle, bright, sterile, yuck. Traded it for a Telonics and the difference is huge. |
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Josh Yenne
From:
Sonoma California
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Posted 9 May 2016 7:39 pm
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| Joseph I agree the word I would use for sure is sterile. Love their cables though! And hey everyone likes what they like. I did the Telonics for a while myself. Then just excepted the fact that I just like single coils. Some rooms they're going to hum. But I just like single coil so much better. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 May 2016 8:02 am
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| Philip Mitrakos wrote: |
| Hes using a,bandit 100 watt amp jbl speaker and treble is set on 2 I told him to turn off the presence knob and I think hes using a digitech rp 100 effects prosser |
Clean channel? He probably just needs to turn up the volume and turn down the mids. Start with the mids all the way down (or nearly so), set the lows to 7 or 8, and then adjust his overall tone with the treble control.
Also, amps generally get a fuller sound with the master volumes set higher and the player using the volume pedal to control the loudness. If you get distortion turn down the pre gain, not the master. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 May 2016 8:06 am
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| Josh Yenne wrote: |
| Joseph I agree the word I would use for sure is sterile. Love their cables though! And hey everyone likes what they like. I did the Telonics for a while myself. Then just excepted the fact that I just like single coils. Some rooms they're going to hum. But I just like single coil so much better. |
705 is your friend. Great sounding humbucker, and when you ground one coil, a pretty good single coil (but a bit lighter wound than modern pickups).
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
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Posted 18 May 2016 11:19 am
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when you ground one coil |
Hi Lane,
How do you do that ? Thanks |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 18 May 2016 12:43 pm
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The two wires that you tape together (I think it's the red and green), you connect to one lug of a simple SPST switch, and the other end goes to ground.
With the switch open, you're humbucking, but when you close it, you're single coil.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
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Posted 18 May 2016 3:27 pm
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Johan Forsman
From:
Sweden
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Posted 19 May 2016 11:44 pm
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Lane: I know there are several threads where this is covered in detail, but I thought I ask here as the topic came up and reminded me about the option to install a switch with the 705.
I know how to solder but know very little about electronics, so: Can it be any type of on-on or on-off-on switch or are there some specifications I should look for, is this good e.g.: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/On-Off-Sub-Miniature-Small-Mini-Toggle-Switch-SPST-/252328602656?hash=item3abff4ec20:g:sxEAAOSw6aVUoImp
Also I'm curious to know whether the sound of the humbucking mode of a switch-enabled 705 should be different compared to when the pup isn't wired for the switching possibility? Is there something lost when adding the switch? |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 May 2016 2:11 am
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That switch will work fine. Any old switch will do, but I like that type because you can't miswire it.
And it doesn't change anything by being in there.
Until you throw the switch, those two wires are electrically "tied together and floating".
But when you throw the switch, they're grounded, so just one coil us sending a signal.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Johan Forsman
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Sweden
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Posted 20 May 2016 4:34 am
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Way cool. Thanks Lane, much appreciated.
I may (most certainly  ) have questions once I get this started but I ask them in another thread.
BUT...why doesn't this type of wiring seem more standard. I got my 705 installed at the Mullen factory when they built my guitar, of course it would have been a bit more trouble for them to do it this way, but I would easily have paid them the extra (if not too substantial) if it had been an option. Now, I'm happy to do it myself as well. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 20 May 2016 6:04 am
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Since, AFAIK, the 705 is the only one with that option, it might not occur to them to mention it.
I bet they'd make it that way if you ask.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Larry Moore
From:
Hampton, Ga. USA
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Posted 21 May 2016 11:58 pm E-66 Pick-ups
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I have a old Derby D-10 It has E-66 pick ups on both necks. I never liked the tone of the E-66's, But on this Steel They sound great It is S/n # 27. It's a keeper.
Just my opinion.
Like Lane said Turn the knobs to suit your ears.
I am using a Session-500 at the club.
Also I just tried tonight for the first time out A Bandit-65 In a NV-400 Cabinet with a 15" JBL E-130
it sounded great, a little heavy, but Steel had very good low's
Larry |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 22 May 2016 3:22 am
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The E-66 appears to be the brightest of the lot, but it clearly suits some instruments (else why make it?). To my mind the pickup is the interface between the natural tone of the instrument and the sound in the player's head. On my home-built S12 I went for the EON (not mentioned so far) which seems to be a toned-down version of the E-66 and it sounds fine. But if I build another instrument I shall not assume that the same model pickup will deliver the same tone.... 
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Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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James Quackenbush
From:
Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 23 May 2016 9:09 am
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I'm in the same camp as Larry M. .....There have not been any George L pickups that I liked in particular , especially not the E-66 ......That being said , there was one steel where the pickup DID sound good , and I can't for the life of me remember which one it was ....
It really took me by surprise .... I have a George L in one of my steels that I recently purchased , and I will be taking it out shortly ...I have a few of them that I will be selling .....Jim |
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