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Topic: acoustic simulation stompbox |
Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2016 5:10 pm
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Does anybody know of a stompbox/pedal/EQ unit that is designed to make an electric guitar simulate the sound of an acoustic one? I am thinking of something similar to Tom B's MXR Dobro Simulator to get the dobro sound from an electric steel. In this case, though, I want to get the acoustic guitar sound from the electric. I wouldn't expect a Tele to sound like a prewar Dreadnought, although that might be pretty cool, but if I could get an Epi semi-hollow to sound like an Americana El Cheapo flattop, that just might do the job.
Suggestions? _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 23 Mar 2016 5:36 pm
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I use a Boss Acoustic pedal on electric guitar and it does a reasonable job simulating an acoustic guitar. There are many acoustic pedals on the market but the Boss unit has been around for quite some time. |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2016 8:02 pm
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Len, thanks for the reply. I found two Boss pedals at MF, the AC-3 Acoustic Simulator and the AD-8 Acoustic Guitar Multi Effects Pedal. The AC-3 looks like it might do the job for me. I believe that I could buy a nice student grade flattop with pickup for the price on the AD-8.
I have never been (much of) a pedal kind of guy so I will have to give this one some thought. I appreciate hearing your opinion. _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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Loren Morehouse
From: Meadowlands, MN USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2016 6:43 am
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Michael I do have a brand new Boss AC-2 if you're interested. Never used, mint!! $60 not including postage. Loren. |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2016 10:43 am
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Loren, thanks for your offer. I will give it some thought, but I the newer model (AC-3) has the Reverb which is strong point for me.
I didn't mean to be rude. I just now noticed your post or I would have replied sooner. I must still be hibernating! _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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Loren Morehouse
From: Meadowlands, MN USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 9:51 am
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No problemo...just wanted you to know I had an older one. Good luck. |
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Len Amaral
From: Rehoboth,MA 02769
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Posted 1 Apr 2016 1:41 am
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I have the AC3 with the reverb. Pretty neat pedal for what it does. |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 2 May 2016 7:59 pm
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Loren, I am sending you a Personal Message through the Forum. _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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Bill A. Moore
From: Silver City, New Mexico, USA
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Posted 3 May 2016 6:58 am
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I have an AC-2 that can help make a Tele almost sound like a J45. I do add a little chorus also. |
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Loren Morehouse
From: Meadowlands, MN USA
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Posted 7 May 2016 8:15 am
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Michael, email sent. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 7 May 2016 1:00 pm
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Another option is to install a bridge with Peizo pickups on the Epi. Combining such a bridge with an AC pedal might give you the sound you're looking for. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 8 May 2016 6:39 pm
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Mike, thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately (for the idea, not the guitar), the guitar has a Bigsby Tremolo and roller saddles in a Tune-O-Matic-Style bridge so I don't see how I'd get a piezo element in there.
The piezo is a a good idea, though. I'm surprised that it didn't occur to me because I usually have a one or more piezo elements sitting around awaiting another project. I suppose that I could consider a contact type pickup, but I don't like the handling noise that usually goes with those.
As an off-topic aside, if I can find a real skinny piezo element (cheap!), I like to try one in the T-Bridge on a Tri-Cone.
Any other suggestions or comments on Acoustic Simulation? _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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ajm
From: Los Angeles
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Posted 9 May 2016 7:35 am
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I don't know which one is the "best", and I have never tried one.
But if you Google "guitar acoustic simulator pedal" you will find much more than you probably ever wanted to know. The are even some Youtube demos.
I found a schematic for the Boss AC-2. There's really nothing fancy in it, and it appears to be a bunch of filters. (Starting to sound familiar?) However, whether or not it can be duplicated/simulator with a GEQ pedal is another story.
The AC-2 does look a little too complex to build on your own. You'd be better off just buying one.
I found a schematic for someone's homebrew design on diystompboxes. No exotic ICs, just op amps and discrete parts. I don't know how it sounds.
I am not aware of any kits for something like this, but there may be one.
I know that Scholz / Rockman made one at one time, but once again, I don't know how it sounds. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 9 May 2016 7:45 am
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ajm wrote: |
I know that Scholz / Rockman made one at one time, but once again, I don't know how it sounds. |
I have one of those. It works quite well. Gives the steel a unique woody sound.
Unfortunately Dunlop bought the company and then discontinued the unit. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Michael Maddex
From: Northern New Mexico, USA
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Posted 10 May 2016 7:20 pm
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ajm wrote: |
... and it appears to be a bunch of filters. (Starting to sound familiar?) However, whether or not it can be duplicated/simulator with a GEQ pedal is another story. ... |
It did occur to me to try and get the effect with an EQ, but since I don't have a good idea of what settings to start with and since I don't own one and would have to buy one and I don't currently have any other use for one, I let that idea slide on by.
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... The AC-2 does look a little too complex to build on your own. You'd be better off just buying one. ... I am not aware of any kits for something like this, but there may be one. |
The Boss AC-2 is on its way. As for building stuff, my limited experience has been that if you do it to save money you are likely to be disappointed. If you do it for the pleasure of making and learning, you are likely to be a happy camper. Plus you get the added pleasure of showing off the final project. If you build to get just exactly what you want because that's not on the market, that's another plus, too. _________________ "For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert." -- Arthur C. Clarke |
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