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Topic: Steel Guitar and Traditional Country on Saturday NIght Live |
Darrell Criswell
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Maryland, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 1:54 pm |
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This is not a joke! Last night Margo Price performed on Saturday Night Live. She is heralded in the entertainment media as a revival of tradtional country music. Her band has steel guitar, harmonica, telecaster and fiddle and does not have the distorted rock type sounds associated with most New Coujntry.
You can listen to her performing two songs, whether you like her songs or not I think it is the vein of traditional country.
http://pitchfork.com/news/64706-margo-price-performs-on-saturday-night-live/
Margo is currently the up and coming person in country music. There was an article about her recently in the NY Times magazine which listed the 25 new musicians of today's music.
She did not get her start in country music, as more of an indie punk background, but learned about traditional country by listening to the music of Buck, Tammy, Loretta etc. |
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Spencer Cullum
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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 2:29 pm
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Was a wonderful performance. Margo and her band deserve all there success, not only great musicians but hard working, kind people. That sort of thing getting a lot of media attention lights a spark in the industry's and audiences brain that great music is still out there.
Lovely work on that push pull too Luke ðŸ‘ðŸ¼ðŸ‘ðŸ¼
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 3:17 pm
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| Breath of fresh air. I missed one spot, but the other was nice. I've seen her a few times on national TV. Good to see Luke Schneider on the pedal steel up front there too. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 3:56 pm
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| Guitarist Jamie Davis is one of our local State College guys that started out on bluegrass guitar but left here about 10 years ago for greener pastures. He's a great young player that really gets it. I love the Hag/Roy Nichols quote at the end of Hurtin' (On the Bottle). |
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2016 4:23 pm
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It's appropriate that real country music should come from a different direction (remember Bakersfield?)since Nashville has once again abdicated it's position. Around here most of the neo country performers are coming from a rock background and they're making waves.
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Jonathan Lam
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Brooklyn, NY
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 7:00 am
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Music was good, just can't hear the steel but sure can hear guitar 
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 7:44 am
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| I was just thinking... Why bother to carry a steel guitar? |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:44 am
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| Jonathan Lam wrote: |
| C6 solo on broadcast television. Congrats Luke! |
i watched both clips and didn't see a c6 solo.
where did you see that? |
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Mark Eaton
From:
Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:59 am
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I like what Margo is all about - I'm a supporter of young artists of this ilk through CD purchases and occasional concert tickets when they come through my region, but my wife and I watched the show and I have seen a few other vids and I have to say she doesn't quite do it for me.
But hey - we're not all going to like the same stuff.
i heard the steel fine in my television "feed." I have been told more than once by full time pro musicians who have done a fair amount of television that it can vary depending on the carrier how the show is broadcast into your home.
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:05 am
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| Jonathan Lam wrote: |
| C6 solo on broadcast television. Congrats Luke! |
i watched both clips and didn't see a c6 solo.
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Me either.
Is it just my computer--both speakers are working fine, sound came out of both of them--but on both songs the steel was barely detectable. Sounds like a faint bleed into the other mikes sneaking through a feed from the board in which the steel was muted. From what I could tell visually and from the ghostly sound in the distance it all seemed to be E9.
Last edited by Brint Hannay on 12 Apr 2016 9:08 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:07 am
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| chris ivey wrote: |
| Jonathan Lam wrote: |
| C6 solo on broadcast television. Congrats Luke! |
i watched both clips and didn't see a c6 solo.
where did you see that? |
The solo and some of the fills on "Since You Put Me Down" have a bit of a swing feel to them but he's definitely on the E9 neck all the time. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:21 am
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I couldn't hear the steel guitar in those videos. All I could hear was a faint high pitched squeal. Maybe it is bad just in the videos and not the television view.
I thought she was OK, but not the one to bring real (classic) country music into the limelight.
I saw Luke doing a lot of picking and really wish I could hear it. And, I also didn't see him on the C6 neck, but the views of him weren't real good.
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:40 am
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| Mark Eaton wrote: |
i heard the steel fine in my television "feed." I have been told more than once by full time pro musicians who have done a fair amount of television that it can vary depending on the carrier how the show is broadcast into your home. |
You may be correct Mark so evidently, my carrier doesn't like steel but I can sure hear the guitar.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:42 am
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I would have mixed the steel a bit louder if it was down to me but you can hear it fine in these video clips at least.
I don't know if these are the same videos linked in the original post as those weren't viewable in the UK.
It's panned to the right on the first song and to the left on the second one for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgn5Jql6YWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nPzqwmAEFQ |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 9:54 am
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| I wouldn't say I can hear the steel fine in those clips, but they're better than the clips in the OP at least. The steel is much quieter than the guitar, even on the steel solo, and though it sounds like nice playing it's rather murky from an excess of delay. Don't know if the player or the sound mixer is responsible for the wet/dry balance, but given the volume disparity I'd suspect the sound person. |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 10:13 am
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In the links Jeff posted there seems to be something very wrong with the rhythm.
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Rich Upright
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 1:28 pm
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I could hear the steel just fine, but my system has a 6-way surround with subwoofer, & EQ ap that I downloaded. My computer stereo sounds better than a home stereo! Got a 32" monitor, so I could see everything just fine.
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ajm
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 3:28 pm
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Joachim: I'm glad you said that and not me. That was the first thing that I noticed on both videos.
Something sounds very wrong. It sounds like the band is playing straight ahead timing and the drummer is playing a shuffle. |
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Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 4:15 pm
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Were they playing to a click?  |
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 4:27 pm
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| Jonathan Lam wrote: |
He plays the c6 neck on the second tune for the whole time, but he plays e9 style licks.
I was there and watched him on the back neck. just FYI. |
If he's not playing the E9 neck here at around 2:51 (during his solo), I need to get my eyes checked!
Last edited by Jeff Mead on 12 Apr 2016 4:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Jonathan Lam
From:
Brooklyn, NY
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 6:13 pm
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Trust me - on the first video that was linked on this thread, the steel guitar was basically out of the mix. Nothing to do with what was broadcast, just some technical glitch in that vid. Only lead instrument I heard was Jamie's Telecaster.
On the other vid I can find for Hurting (On the Bottle) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgn5Jql6YWg - there is some type of rhythmic glitch. It's really obvious - that is not the way it originally sounded. Actually, the other vid by FERNANDEZ, there's the same rhytmic glitch. It's a glitch.
On the original broadcast, everything was perfect. Really. You could hear the steel just fine, and everything was rhythmically in-synch.
Youtube uploads can be funky. Really. Ask me how I know.
You know - there are about 8 billion people in the world, and most of them can upload videos to youtube. Consider that there may a bit of variation in their technical chops to do something like this. C'est la vie. |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Apr 2016 8:04 pm
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Okay, so:
First, I listened to the OP clips through my Bose computer speakers. Steel was virtually inaudible (as I described above), no timing problems.
Next, I listened to the later-provided YouTube clips. Steel was audible, but horrendous timing glitches in the recording.
Just now, I listened to the OP clips through headphones. Steel audible, no timing glitches.
Ain't digital technology grand?
(IMO the steel was still mixed too low in the phones, and there was too much delay on it in the second clip, but that's a matter of personal taste.) |
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