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Topic: Sierra U 12 tuning |
Russell Adkins
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Louisiana, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 5:25 pm |
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| I just got a sierra u 12 and its way way out of tune can anyone tell me what the universal tuning would be? i have 4 knees and 7 pedals with the lever that turns it to a b6 tuning, the guitar is a Crown keyless or gearless as it says on the front , really looks nice not beat up I also need one of the black tightners for the legs i am missing one.thanks Russ |
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Jerry Berger
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Nampa, Idaho USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 5:58 pm
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Hi Russell,
I hope that this will help you out.
http://b0b.com/tunings/sierra.html
Regards,
Jerry Berger
Last edited by Jerry Berger on 31 Mar 2016 12:11 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Ross Shafer
From:
Petaluma, California
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 6:05 pm
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| Sent a PM. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 8:41 pm Sierra 12 string E9/B6
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| I looked up Several 12 U tuning's when I got into 12 string steel. A DVD with this tuning was with the the steel I bought. I use this tuning on my GFI 7 pedal-4 knee levers. Type in Tuning Charts-Jeffran College It will take you to their Web site, Then click on Tuning, Scroll down to 12U E9/B6. If your steel is set up with Pedal 4 raising 9 from B to C, Lowering String 11 from E to D# and lowering String 12 B to G# this may be the tuning used on your guitar. This is Jeff Newman's tuning for the 12 string E9th/B6 tuning with 7P-4KL. Good Luck and Happy Steelin. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 9:53 pm
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Here is my tuning. The W is a wrist lever.
I must confess I never use the B6 side, and may take those pedals off at some future point. But I like the layout of the open strings and the extended bass.
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 30 Mar 2016 11:31 pm
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I can confirm that was how we set up thee factory S-12U's when I was working for Sierra in the mid 70's. |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 12:06 pm setup or what
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What is going on with this , here is how its setup after tuning this guitar here is what I get
ped 1 raises strings 9 and 5
ped 2 raises strings 6 and 3
ped 3 raises string 5
the vertical lowers string 5
lnl lowers string 2
rnl raises string 4
rnr lowers strings 4 and 8
ped 7 raises strings 7 and 6
ped 6 lowers 8
ped 5 lowers 7 and raises string 11
ped 4 raises 12 and 9
Completely confused here , Help ?
the e s are lowered way over on the right knee right seems like a big mess. |
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Chris Reesor
From:
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 2:29 pm Sierra
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Yes, it looks like it has been messed with, as it is currently several pulls shy of the full E9/B6 setup that it most likely had from the factory.
You probably have plenty there for a killer Ext E9 ax, though.
It is quite normal to have the E changes over on the right knee, if there is such a thing as normal in E9/B6. 
Sierras are cool; I had one many moons ago, and it was solid, smooth, and reliable.
Chris
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 2:54 pm
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| thanks chris , I tried to contact the maker hope they get back to me Id like to get the guitar changed and maybe a couple add ons as well as put back what it is supposed to be . Russ |
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Tom Campbell
From:
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 3:24 pm
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Russell,
Sierra does not support their pedal steel guitars anymore.
You need to contact Jim Palenscar at Steel Guitars North County, located in California for pats, etc.
Email SteelGuitars@cox.net |
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 4:22 pm
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| thank you Tom , I sent them an email hope they get back to me quickly . Russ |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2016 10:01 pm
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I have set and compared what you posted on the pulls and lowers. I think some one tried to set it up with Jeff Newman's U 12 Tuning. There is a pull on string 10 with pedal B. Pull on string 4. With these 2 additions you would have the Pedals A, B, and C to Common E9th tuning on a Emmons/Nashville set up.
This is Newman's Tuning with cents count + or - which it makes easier with most tuners. RKL is missing a raise on string 8 to go with the 4th string raise. With the addition of these 3 pulls you would have standard A, B, C Pedals and D Knee lever RKR and F Knee lever RKL for a standard E9th Tuning. The chart in the picture I will E-mail or send a copy to you U.S. Mail if you send me an E-mail. If you want to use it. Good Luck and Happy Steelin.
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Russell Adkins
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 1 Apr 2016 9:05 pm sierra u 12
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| Bobby I sent you an email and thank you . Russ |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2016 11:34 am Sierra U 12 Tuning
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First thing The above co-pendent is missing a pull. I am guilty. I put this co-pendent together by watching Jeff Newman's video on tuning a 12 U. It does not list the 11th string pull to F on the F Knee Lever. Here is a picture with it added.
This post made me look into sites for 12 U tunings and found the addition on JeFran web site. Now you want to know the bad part. Billy Cooper had set this guitar up Nashville/Emmons when new. When I bought it I went under the hood. Set it up Day and moved the D lever to RKR and F knee lever to RKL. I just marked and moved all the rods around. Last night after I found that additional pull on the internet I looked and the rod was there just the plastic nut was backed off. I tuned it up and what an addition. Now when A pedal and F knee lever are engaged you have a lower octive of notes on strings 9, 10 and 11 as on 3, 4 and 5. Sorry that pull was missed. Now the question is, Is old age catching me or steel guitars are working on my mind? BJ |
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