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Rodney Dickinson

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2016 11:35 pm    
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Does anyone have a voicing for a dominant7#9 (or 7b9) chord for the E9 neck?
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Jonathan Lam

 

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Post  Posted 23 Mar 2016 11:46 pm    
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strings 9 6 and 5 with the a pedal down. if you are using E as your root, (E - 0, f- 1 etc...) then add 6 frets, or subtract 6 frets (also known as a tritone) to get a #9 sound.

for b9 you can stay in E rooted position, and just raise your Es, and play 9 8 6.
have fun!
G7b9 3rd fret, a7b9 5th fret etc...
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Olli Haavisto


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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2016 3:56 am    
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Like Jonathan said, strings 9, 5 and 6, pedal A down.
I find it easier to think one fret down from the pedals down position.
E7#9 fret 6, for E7b9 just release the A pedal.
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Henry Brooks

 

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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2016 7:31 am    
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The easies way to make a 7#9 is to raise string 7 F# to G.
MAke E7#9.
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Rodney Dickinson

 

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Post  Posted 24 Mar 2016 1:38 pm     7#9 or 7b9 chords........
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Thanks for the responses guys.... they have helped me quite a bit for the major keys. My next problem is with a minor key. If I'm playing in Em at the 3rd fret where do I find the B7#9? This is probably obvious with what you've already shared with me but I seem to be missing something. Thanks for your help.
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Ian Rae


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Redditch, England
Post  Posted 24 Mar 2016 1:52 pm    
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If your Em is 5,6,8 with the A pedal, then 1st fret, still with the A pedal but 5,6,9.
(I can lower my 8th string a whole step which makes it easier.)
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John Goux

 

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Post  Posted 25 Mar 2016 10:32 pm    
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These are good answers everyone.
Ian, where do you put the E lower to D? Is it on the lever with your E to D# or someplace else?
John
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Ian Rae


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Post  Posted 26 Mar 2016 2:35 am    
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John, you guessed it. D# is a ½-stop and D is all the way. (It's a uni setup so it doubles as P6.) Musically it's great, mechanically it needs some refinement as it's tricky to hit the D# in tune on the way back.
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Rodney Dickinson

 

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Post  Posted 27 Mar 2016 7:28 am     7#9 or 7b9 chords........
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Thanks to all of you for your immediate responses to my question. I got good information from each of you.

Rod
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 27 Mar 2016 7:08 pm    
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You can think of a 7b9 chord as a diminished chord with the bass player handling the root. The root note of the chord is intended to be voiced below the E9th pedal steel's range*. So, think of it as a diminished one note higher than the chord name. In other words, if you see E7b9, play F°. If you see A7b9, play Bb°. Etc.

I hope that helps.

*On C6th, you can hit the root on the 9th or 10th string. The E9th doesn't go that low.
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Rodney Dickinson

 

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Post  Posted 28 Mar 2016 8:55 am    
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Thanks b0b. That explains it quite clearly. I appreciate the input from you and all the fellas that responded to my post.
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Tim Brady

 

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Post  Posted 29 Mar 2016 5:44 pm    
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Bob, thanks. I didn't ever think of it that way before you splained it. But it sure makes sense and simplifies things.
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