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Topic: Pedal/Lap Combo. |
Rick Collins
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Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:50 am |
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No kidding...
I know there are some of these; but one would think there would be more. As many steel guitarist there are, that play pedal and lap steel on a gig, it would seem this combination would be quite common.
It would seem that a 12 string universal (with five pedals and any given number of levers) on the outside neck, and a 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, or 12, with a shorter scale (22&1/2")and slightly wider string spacing on the inside would be almost a standard.
Rick
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 11:22 am
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It's not very easy to get a pedal steel cabinet to sound like a good lap steel. It could probably be done, though, provided it was the proper color.  |
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 2:20 pm
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I think Al Perkins had a non-pedal tuning on his rear neck in the 70`s and played the overdriven slide guitarrish stuff on that , maybe open A tuning ?
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Polar steeler
Finland
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George Rozak
From:
Braidwood, Illinois USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 2:47 pm
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Some of the Cougar steel guitars, made by the late Freeman Cougar, had some type of a lap steel built into the back neck. There's probably a few used ones still floating around out there. Scotty also had a custom built Derby for sale awhile back that had a standard E9 pedal front neck and a non-pedal back neck. Someone on the forum here mentioned that he was considering purchasing it.
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Sho-Bud: Professional & Fingertip
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 3:32 pm
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George,
I remember seeing ads for the Cougar (years ago... ) and I think the lap steel neck was removable or available as an add-on ?
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 10:36 pm
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Both Olli.
It was a separete unit that was removed by lifting off of the hooks that held it in place. |
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Steve Howard
From:
High Ridge, Missouri, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 5:25 am
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I was the one who purchased the Derby from Scotty's with an E9 pedal front neck and a non-pedal C6 tuned 10-string back neck. I have not yet decided what I want to do with the C6 neck yet. If I don't find myself playing a lot of Hank Williams on it, I may restring it with an open D tuning or standard tuning to play more rock slide guitar on it. As I play mostly new country and classic/southern rock stuff, this seems more suitable for me, but I am not familiar enough with the E9 to really worry about the back neck yet, and I also don't know that with some pedal combos on the E9 I couldn't get the major tuning anyway.
But back to the point, this guitar was custom built by Derby as it was originally an SD-10 but the previous owner (who is also a forum member) played lap originally and sent it back to get the none pedal neck added. It is quite a pretty guitar.
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 6:46 am
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 7:45 am
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If you remember some years ago, Duane Marrs was building the "Cat Can" reso guitar. I heard of some players removing the pad from a SD-10 pedal steel and positioning the Cat Can in that location. I believe Duane even made a bracket setup so you could place the Cat Can in front of the E9th neck and higher up. 
Erv[This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 13 November 2004 at 07:46 AM.] |
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Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Nov 2004 10:59 am
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Bob White may have had the first pedal/non pedal steel guitar.?? He had a triple neck Bigsby PSG in the mid 1950s. The two 10 string necks had pedals, while the 3rd 8 string neck had no pedals.
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Jackie Anderson
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Scarborough, ME
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