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Topic: Identify steel & steeler w/ Ernest Tubb (old photo) |
Steve Green
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 3:47 pm |
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The Hank Garland family shared this photo on Facebook, and I was curious who the steeler is, and what brand of steel he's playing. I was thinking maybe a National or Magnatone?
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 3:52 pm
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I think it might be a National. The black keyhead covers and what I can make out of the fret marker, they could be National. No clue as to the steel player is.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 3:54 pm
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No idea about instruments, but isn't that a 16-or-so Buddy Emmons?
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Tommy White
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Nashville
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 6:23 pm
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| It is definately NOT Buddy Emmons.🙂 |
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Will Brown
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Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 6:45 pm whos the steel player
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| IT Looks A lot like Leodie Jackson |
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J R Rose
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Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 7:42 pm
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I too think it looks like Leodie Jackson, not for sure. J.R.
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Johnny Cox
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Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 8:13 pm
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Kemo Head most likely. He was ET's first steel player.
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Craig Baker
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Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Feb 2016 9:11 pm
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Either Kemo as Johnny said, or possibly Dickie Harris who immediately preceded Buddy Emmons.
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Mitch Drumm
From:
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 2:33 am
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I don’t think it’s Leodie Jackson or Dickie Harris or Kemo Head.
Below are pictures of all 3 of those guys. None of them looks like the steeler in the pic with Hank Garland to me.
The Garland picture is likely pre-Dickie Harris and post-Kemo Head. The steeler may not have any affiliation with Tubb’s band at all.
Kemo Head was out of the Troubadours sometime in 1946, although I think he may have been back for a while in the mid or late 50s. I’d guess these pictures of Kemo were taken after his primary stint with Tubb.
Dickie Harris recorded with ET as early as 1949, but he doesn’t seem to be the full-time recording steeler with Tubb until about 1952.
Leodie was never a Texas Troubadour, although he may have played with Tubb on stage somewhere along the line. He was based on the west coast in the late 1940s and early 1950s and has no Nashville connections as far as I know.
Wayne Fleming was a Troubadour steel man circa 1947 but the only picture I can find of him is from an obituary, when he was in his 70s. He was born in 1929, so by birth date alone, he could fit into the picture with Garland. Could the picture with Garland be as early as 1947, when Hank was only 16 or 17? Probably not.
Other than Fleming, Don Davis, Jerry Byrd, Speedy West, Don Helms, and Billy Robinson all recorded with Tubb after Kemo Head left and before Dickie Harris took over full-time, but the guy in the pic certainly isn’t any of them.
Edit:
Here's a vintage picture of Wayne Fleming. Probably not him either?
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Bill Lowe
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Connecticut
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 2:37 am
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(L-R) Billy Byrd, Ray Kemo Head, Ernest Tubb, Jack Drake,
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David DeLoach
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 3:35 am
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| I asked Lynn Owsley, who played steel for Ernest Tubb beginning in 1974, abou that picture. He said, "I think that is Kemo Head (Ray ) he was ET's 1st steel player. He is playing a National which I have here. He gave it to me on 1995." |
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Craig Baker
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Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 5:57 am
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How 'bout a young Pete Drake. Can't hide those cheeks.
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Jerry Jones
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Franklin, Tenn.
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 7:08 am
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From this image printed in "Vintage Guitar Magazine", looks to me to be Bob Foster with the Cowboy Copas Band. Bob is wearing the same style shirt as Hank is wearing in the OP image.
The Cowboy Copas Band in 1949, (from left) Autry Inman (bass), “Lazy Jim†Day, Red Herrington (fiddle), Cowboy Copas (guitar), Hank Garland with his ’49 Epiphone Emperor Deluxe Cutaway, Bob Foster (steel).
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Mitch Drumm
From:
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Posted 10 Feb 2016 8:16 am
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Jerry, I think you are exactly right.
I just didn't recognize Foster.
That guy doesn't get nearly enough credit and is very rarely mentioned on this forum despite being on hundreds of classic country recordings. I haven't looked, but I don't think he's in the SG Hall Of Fame.
Here's another pic of Copas with Hank and Bob Foster:
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 6:56 pm
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| Craig Baker wrote: |
How 'bout a young Pete Drake. . .
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That's not Pete, but rather Pete's brother
Jack that you see directly behind Ernests
right shoulder (in the first picture at
the top of this thread).
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Joe Goldmark
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San Francisco, CA 94131
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Posted 17 Feb 2016 6:54 pm
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Hi Mitch, You and Jerry are amazing. Good detective work.
BTW, I was wondering where you are these days and I Googled "Frostbite Falls." Pretty funny.
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