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Topic: C6th: Raising F to G |
b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 9:24 am |
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How many people here raise the 9th string F to G, and where do you put that change? It seems to me that it could be added to the left knee that lowers the 3rd string C to B. Is that a bad idea for some reason (other than stiffness)?
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Earnest Bovine
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Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 9:59 am
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You would lose the raised 11th (or flatted 5th) chord in root position, which is the low D flat in this example. True, you could play the +11 with P7, but then you couldn't resolve it this way,
releasing the lever (and a pedal) to leave the G on top (and B natural in the middle) while the other notes go down a half step. I think all C6 players use this resolution quite a lot. I use it on ext E9 too; lowering the B string to A#. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 10:46 am
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That's a real purty change, Earnest. I never noticed it before.
For anyone lost in the notation, Earnest is making the Db9#11 at the 8th fret, P6+K, and resolving it to CMaj9 at the 7th fret, no pedals.
I don't think I'd use it as much as the alternating bass rhythm with the low G note, but now that I see it, who knows? More comments are welcome.
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Herb Steiner
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Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 11:31 am
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It depends on one's stylistic needs. I've considered the change, though not on that knee lever, but decided it didn't work with my repertoire of C6 maneuvers.
Likewise the more common usage of lowering s9 to Eb on p8. Cool change but not for me.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 5:03 pm
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I think Herb has coined a new term in using the word "manuevers". Instead of us plying licks, runs, etc, we should start calling them manuevers.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 8:50 pm
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I think that Bobbe Seymour must have had this change somewhere. And Bobby Garrett. You hear all of those great alternating thumb bass parts on their recordings. I can't all be just the standard "maneuvers" - or can it?
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Jim Smith
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Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2016 9:59 pm
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| I lower the low A to G instead, but I don't know if that would fit in with what you want. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Feb 2016 10:42 am
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| Jim Smith wrote: |
| I lower the low A to G instead, but I don't know if that would fit in with what you want. |
I use the minor 9th a lot with the 3rd string C-B lever, so I couldn't lower the A on that. Something to think about, though. Thanks.
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Mark Wayne
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2016 1:41 pm
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B0b, I use that change on LKL, for the same reason as Seymour and Garrett used it. The 3rd string C - C# raise is on the same lever. To nuetralize the C, I'll engage the C to B lever (RKL).
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