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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2016 7:21 pm |
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Why do we have a mindset controlled by blinders.
I'm talking life in general, but will use the Steel Guitar for an example. My point is that, some virtually unknown can come up with an Invention, Idea or a change that could help everyone, but it's gets Ignored. On the other hand if some one like Buddy Emmons (MHRIP) did it, every one would think it's the greatest thing since bubble gum.
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 10 Jan 2016 7:58 pm
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| Well, "names" catch our attention more easily, and requires less initial thinking, than having to deal with actual ideas and solutions, I guess. Have always been like that. |
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Dick Sexton
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Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 6:00 am Inventions...
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Bill, if you are the inventor of a useful even revolutionary product, it can be very frustrating to get it "to market". Especially in a relatively small market. The steel guitar community is exactly that, even with thousands of players, it pails compared to other markets and not every player is on the forum.
What "Famous" players have, is a "Brand" and that brand is there name. Even though it took me a while(I'm pretty slow), I learned who Buddy Emmons, Lloyd Green and Jeff Newman were before any others. I couldn't wait to read something about them or something they had written. Brand recognition.
There have been several relatively unknown players on the forum, that I have seen establish a brand and sell there product, inventions, even steels. Establishing a "Brand" sometimes take years. But it is possible.
Enter Ron Popel! and "As seen on TV!" "Best Dang Gadgets", right here on the forum. Even yourself, when I see your name, I read what you've said. Always interesting... |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 7:45 am
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| Fame lends credibility. People just gravitate towards famous people, and that is really nothing new. (This notion is the same one that gave most people the idea that Thomas Edison invented the electric light bulb.) |
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Bud Angelotti
From:
Larryville, NJ, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 9:28 am
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I don't think I agree with you Bill.
Look at Facebook and how great it is, created by an unknown.
Thoroughly tongue in cheek,
Bud
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Damir Besic
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 4:42 pm Re: Famous vs Not so Famous
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| Bill Dobkins wrote: |
| if some one like Buddy Emmons (MHRIP) did it, every one would think it's the greatest thing since bubble gum. |
because often, it was ..... Buddy wasn't born famous, he became famous for a reason...
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Jeffery Self
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Spring City,Tennessee, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 5:45 pm Re: Famous vs Not so Famous
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| Damir Besic wrote: |
| Bill Dobkins wrote: |
| if some one like Buddy Emmons (MHRIP) did it, every one would think it's the greatest thing since bubble gum. |
because often, it was ..... Buddy wasn't born famous, he became famous for a reason... |
Unless you were from Mishawaka, Indiana, then he was born famous 
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2016 11:46 pm
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Well, it could be said that someone like Buddy Emmons was a consistent generator of good/great ideas over a long period of time, which gave him name recognition, clout, and a "brand identity." And like any brand, when a brand you know & respect presents a new idea or product, you're more likely to take notice. It's kind of the same idea of finding a record label you like consistently & checking out their new artists just because they're on a "good" label...doesn't mean good music isn't being made on other labels, or on no label at all! But having that association with a trusted brand or person will always help. It's one reason why companies hire celebrity endorsers.
That said, generally it seems to me that if an idea is truly great or revolutionary, someone somewhere will take notice!
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William Polka
From:
Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 16 Jan 2016 8:19 pm
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| I invented the internet....and Al Gore gets all the credit. Go figure. |
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Georg Sørtun
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Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 16 Jan 2016 10:06 pm
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Good one.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 17 Jan 2016 8:10 am
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[quote="Georg Sørtun"] Who's Al Gore ? ...never heard of him 
Al Gore? I think he was Leslie's father. |
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2016 9:03 am
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Didn't he invent the polar ice cap????
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Jan 2016 9:47 am
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Isn't he the one who "invented" the ALGOREithym?
I think it's true that when a famous name is associated with something, people will pay more attention, and give more credibility to it. This is true in almost all industries, not just steel guitar.
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Bill Dobkins
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Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 17 Jan 2016 12:54 pm
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Richard my point is by doing so I think we are missing out on a lot of good useful products.
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Jan 2016 2:57 pm
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| Bill Dobkins wrote: |
| Richard my point is by doing so I think we are missing out on a lot of good useful products. |
I agree.
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Robert Harper
From:
Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2016 2:17 pm Famous
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That is the reason Name Recognition is so important and so hard to overcome in politics
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Curt Trisko
From:
St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 18 Jan 2016 9:01 pm
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| Doesn't it come down to credibility? There's no shortage of people with ideas to get your time and money. Some ideas are obviously good... but not many people can always tell the difference between a good one and a bad one. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 19 Jan 2016 1:25 am
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It went from guitar, to slide guitar, to putting legs on it, to changing the tuning by adding a foot lever and "Slowly" progressed from there. Some folks will get the “Slowlyâ€
The steel guitar is mechanically simple and most anyone could build one but it takes a player to make meaningful changes to that simplicity and it is no coincidence that the best players seemed to have made the most meaningful changes. |
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