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Topic: Music for E13th 8 string nonpedal |
Jordan Beyer
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Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 7:54 am |
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Hello
Does anyone know where I can get tabs for E13th nonpedal steel in country, Western swing, and blues. I've been looking over the internet for tabs but all I've been able to find is Don Helms and Roy Wiggins ( which I am already playing) if anyone knows of anything for E13th I would be interested
Many thanks, Jordan |
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Jeff Mead
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 8:46 am Re: Music for E13th 8 string nonpedal
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| Jordan Beyer wrote: |
Hello
Does anyone know where I can get tabs for E13th nonpedal steel in country, Western swing, and blues. I've been looking over the internet for tabs but all I've been able to find is Don Helms and Roy Wiggins ( which I am already playing) if anyone knows of anything for E13th I would be interested
Many thanks, Jordan |
Which version of E13 are you using?
From your question, I'm guessing either DH or RW which were different anyway.
I'm not sure exactly what Don's tuning was called but I'm pretty sure it wasn't an E13 (he used high to low - G# E C# B G# E C# A). He only really used the top 6 strings which are the same as a C6 moved up 4 frets, so most C6 material will work as long as you bear that in mind. I think he thought of the tuning as two tunings on one neck - E6 on the top 6 and an A major on the bottom 3.
As well as the Roy Wiggins tuning, there is another common E13 variant with a high E instead of a high G# and, of course, the Leon McAuliffe one with the low E string. There are a few others too and I think it is probably because E13 isn't as standard as C6 (or which there are only two main ones) that there isn't so much material for it. |
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Jordan Beyer
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 9:30 am
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| Jeff, I am using the Don Helms tuning, if that's what you mean |
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Jeff Mead
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 9:39 am
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| Jordan Beyer wrote: |
| Jeff, I am using the Don Helms tuning, if that's what you mean |
There is a book by Don of some of the Hank tunes. It's for C6 (on the top 6 strings only) but as I said, same intervals as your tuning.
Similarly most other C6 material (high E).
I still don't think you're playing E13 though  |
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Jordan Beyer
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 10:04 am
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| The book I use say it's for e13th? If I'm not play e13th then what am I |
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Jordan Beyer
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 10:11 am
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Here is the book I'm using |
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Jeff Mead
From:
London, England
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 11:28 am
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| Jordan Beyer wrote: |
| The book I use say it's for e13th? If I'm not play e13th then what am I |
As the book only uses the top 6 strings, it is effectively E6th. I had misremembered and though that book had been transposed to C6.
All the E13 tunings I am aware of have at least a D as well as the C# and usually an F# as well and I'm pretty sure an A doesn't belong in an E13 at all.
If pressed to give it a name, I'd call it E6/Amaj - since it was used as an E6 most of the time but with that A major triad on the bottom 3 strings.
I'd be interested to hear what others with a better understanding of chord theory make of the tuning
G# E C# B G# E C# A |
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Ray Montee
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Posted 4 Jan 2016 3:38 pm tunings confusion..............
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BEFORE anyone attempts to select a tuning......they should at least have a good, solid understanding of what is in that tuning.
An accomplished steel player should be able to play just about ANY tune that he might choose.....and/or be able to at least ascertain what tuning is being played without all of the hulla-balue about what notes or involved therein.
One should also remember that every time you hear a certain vocalist singing his song, that that doesn't necessarily mean that the steel player is the same on all of the vocalists records.
Some Forumites, when referring to Hank Williams, seem not able to identify the difference in Don Helms and/or Jerry Byrd. When learning an artists song and/or licks, the identity of the steel player should at first be identified correct. Different pickers equates to different TUNINGS. |
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