Current Copedents?

Tim Russell · From: Pennsylvania, USA

I'm in the process of reworking my Sierra D-10 copedent. Adding a couple more knees/verticals, and making the 4th pedal a crossover.

Looking online for ideas, and checking out the copedents that bob has listed on the forum of pro players, I see that most of the information is ages old at this point.

Do you guys know of any listings of current copedents? And, if you have your chart handy, would you mind posting your own in this thread?

Thanks! Smile

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Steve Leal · From: Orange CA, USA

Hi Tim,

I currently play 10 string E9th with 4 knee levers, 1 vertical lever, and 4 pedals. I lower and raise my E's on separate knees which has some benefits and drawbacks (main benefit being that you can get a smooth swoop transition when in the AF position, main drawback is that it limits the flexibility of additional changes on your guitar a bit when used in combination with E raises or lowers).

In having this change, I have done a lot of experimenting with my vertical and zero pedal setups - trying to find optimal uses of combinations with my setup. Here is what I found for my liking/optimization:

Vertical = lower strings 3 and 6 a half step. This might not be the most common choice of professionals today, but I find it very useful in these ways:

1. To get a clean sounding minor in open position - I was really seeking the best possible way to get from AB 1 chord to 6m chord using the same grip of strings but up two frets with 3 and 6 lowered. You can get this same chord also by playing one fret up and lowering 5 and 10 along with raising E's to F and pushing A pedal, but lowering 3 and 6 sounds more in tune.

2. You can get Tom Brumley type licks in A&B position by dropping B pedal, then lowering 3 & 6 in sequence. Listen to "The Heart That You Own" by Dwight Yoakam for a school book example

3. When you are in AF position, you can back down two frets and add the 3 and 6 lower to get that cool 9th chord.

4. You can get the cool Mooney type licks in open position when toggling between lowering and raising string 3. Good for Waylon type grooves.

I have found that you can do without lowering 5 and 10 a half step by using half pedal push of A for the augmented chord, B with half pedal push of A for minor, and B with F raise for open 9th type chords.

I have a knee lever that raises string 1 a whole step, string 2 a half step, and string 7 a half step. I feel that you need to keep string 6 untouched with the string 1 and 2 change to get the most use out of those changes with combinations of chords (AB, A, B, A half B).

For the zero pedal, I currently have it lowering 6 string a whole tone, and I have a rod attached to lower string 5 a whole tone if/when I want the Franklin pedal licks.

Note: you might want to consider raising string 6 a whole tone as Earnest Bovine does. I love what this change does musically, but just don't find myself dexterous enough to make it work for me I think, lol.

Good luck with your setup and let us know what you decide to use.

Greg Cutshaw · From: Corry, PA, USA

Got lots of tabs on my web site showing the uses of all my changes. Every copedant choice involves trade offs. It's always nice to have a spare knee lever and floor pedal to rotate changes in and out of to see see what suits you.

Tim Russell · From: Pennsylvania, USA

Steve - Great info. there. I will have to look over that closely and maybe take a few of those changes.

I like this - "dropping B pedal, then lowering 3 & 6 in sequence."

...and this - "you might want to consider raising string 6 a whole tone as Earnest Bovine does..."

Greg - Thanks for that post. I've referred to your copedent many times while considering my setup. I have some of your changes on mine. I assume this is the tuning that you came up with after many years of playing, trying out various things.

If I had a steel that wasn't so difficult to make changes on, I wouldn't mind so much, but with the Sierra, you better plan everything out well in advance or you'll be backing out numerous pull rods and cross shafts to reposition bellcranks... Oh Well

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Charlie McDonald · From: out of the blue

One thing I like about Greg's is having the Franklin change divided into two pedals, having either the A or F# (which I like a lot) or both.

Gary Carter's setup has some interesting combinations on LKL and RKR.

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