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Topic: Standard S-12 Extended E9th copedant? |
Rick Summers
From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 11:42 am
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Is there such a thing?
Please, I'm needing somewhere to start(again) here. I played 10 string for a few months 'til last year... so now I'm just getting back to it with an S-12 w/ 4p-5k.
I'd like a copedant close to the straight Emmmons setup that I'm somewhat familiar with, only in Ext E9th.
Any suggestions? Or should I try to wing it?
Thanks.. it's good to be back..
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(not really new, formerly Ricky0ne1)
RAWOODS Custom Cabinetry
www.RAWOODS.com
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Bobby Lee
From: Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2004 6:45 pm
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Just set it up like 10 string E9th, then add the 11th string pull G# to A on your B pedal.
If you have a lever that lowers your G# strings to G, you should extend that to the 11th string too.
The F lever should either raise the 12th string E to F, or lower it to C#. I use the C#.
I also lower the 12th string to D on the "C" pedal, but that's unusual. I like it.
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Bobby Lee - email: quasar@b0b.com - gigs - CDs, Open Hearts
Sierra SD-12 (Ext E9), Williams D-12 Crossover, Sierra S-12 (F Diatonic)
Sierra Laptop 8 (E6add9), Fender Stringmaster (E13, C6, A6) |
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Winnie Winston
From: Tawa, Wellington, NZ * R.I.P.
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Rick Summers
From: West Peoria, IL, USA
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 18 Oct 2004 6:32 am
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Hey Rick,
Here's one that you can use to play just about any type of music you'd like to, including western swing and jazzy type things. Have a good 'un..JH
< ^ > 1 2 3 4 < >
F#
D# D/C#
G# A
E F F# D#
B C# C#
G# A A#
F# F
E F D#
D C# C#
B C#
G# A
E C# F
Note* With this setup you can play some things like "Four Wheel Drive" and "Raisin' the Dickins" except they'll be in another key.....JH
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Livin' in the Past and the Future with a 12 string Mooney Universal tuning.
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Drew Howard
From: 48854
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Posted 18 Oct 2004 9:59 am
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Rick,
What brand of guitar are you playing? If you're using an Emmons set-up than only pedal 4 needs an assignment, right? You can play plenty of 6th sounding stuff with what you have. Here's some Ext. E9 tunings I found searching the forum:
Bengt Erlandsen
LKL2 RKR1
LKL1 LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 RKL RKR2
F# F G#
Eb D-C#
G# A
E F F# Eb F#
B C# C# C# Bb
G# G A A# A#
F# F G#
E F Eb
D C# Eb
B C# Bb
G# G A A#
E F# C#
Earnest Bovine's S-12 tunings here > http://b0b.com/tunings/ebovine.html
good luck,
Drew
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Fessenden D-10 8+8 / Magnatone S-8 (E13)
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Bengt Erlandsen
From: Brekstad, NORWAY
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Posted 19 Oct 2004 3:29 am
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Just an update about my current setup. RKR2 has been changed. I got more pedals than I need, but for some certain phrasings they are required. I downsized the setup to 4+5 to show which peds/levers I think should go first.
Bengt Erlandsen, current setup.
LKL2 RKR1
LKL1 LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 P6 P7 RKL RKR2
F# F G#
Eb D-C#
G# A
E F F# Eb F#
B C# C# C# Bb
G# G A A# A#
F# F G#
E F Eb F#
D C#
B C# Bb
G# G A A#
E F# C#
Optional 4p+5k setup
LKL LKV LKR P1 P2 P3 P4 RKL RKR
F# G#
Eb D-C#
G# G A
E F Eb F#
B C# C#
G# G A# A
F# G#
E F Eb
D C#
B C#
G# G A# A
E C# F#
Additional info about the 4+5 setup.
LKL: The low C# should utilize the split tuning screw to stop the 12th string at C# before E's start to raise to F. That way one can use it as a root note for either a minor or a major chord.
P1: The G# to A# on the 11th string is not required for most things but there are some nice voicings to be found with that change there. The G#-A# on the 6th string is a keeper.
P4: The C pedal. on the 12th string I prefer E-F#, bob likes E-D on the same pedal. Either one will work. Try both and see what you like.
RKR: Instead of raising both 1&7 to G# one might like F#-G instead. Makes it a little more easy for som blues IMO. Does certainly feel different compared to the F#-G#.
Bengt Erlandsen
If I only had 3p+4k then LKV and P1 are deleted from the 4p+5k setup.
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