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Topic: Franklin Pedal use |
Rick Vizzi
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New Jersey, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2015 2:46 pm |
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| Could anyone out there who does demos on youtube do one on Franklin Pedal licks and use? Anything would be helpful. I had one put on my Willy during its build. I'd like to see some things I can do with it. I saw Dave Hartley use it on Truck Driving Man. Thanks. |
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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James Sission
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Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Rick Vizzi
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 5:21 am
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| thanks guys i'll check them out! |
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Pete Nicholls
From:
Macon, Georgia, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 7:33 am
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Unfortunately, the Tony Prior video doesn't show how or when he's using the Franklin pedal. I have one on my Justice guitar, but have still not figured out how to use it.
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Justice The Judge SD-10, 2007
Justice Pro Lite SD-10, 2011
Quilter Steelaire
Quilter Labs Tone Block 202 Head
Roland Cube 80-XL
American Stratocaster - Yamaha Bass Guitar
1 Fender Telecaster Nashville Edition
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 11:54 am
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Actually the Vids are very defining with the Franklin change...the Franklin Pedal change is a 3 note chord lower ,once you hear it once , you'll hear it each time. You do have to know what you are listening for which is a 2 or 3 note chord LOWER as opposed to a chord RAISE such as with the AB pedals.
Probably a more common use is with strings 5 and 6 along with string 8 root .
The video's are not about teaching the Franklin pedal, they reference the change in a few complete projects I offer with full tabs and talking points.
here are some reference points...
I Can't Help it @ 1:32, 1:52 and 2:02
I'm So Lonesome :15 thru :19
again @ :50 , 1:10 , 1:22 and more..listen for it.
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Last edited by Tony Prior on 12 Dec 2015 12:24 pm; edited 5 times in total |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 12:04 pm
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Tony, I started putting tape "flags" on my pedal rods to make it obvious when a pedal moves.
It is kinda hard to see them move.
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 12:14 pm
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here ya go Pete, nice simple ending...
5th fret Key of A , 8th string root. Slowly count 1,2,3 4...
pick strings 8,6 and 5 with AB Pedals in, let it sustain, this is 1
While the chord is sustaining release AB to the natural A chord , this is 2..
hit your Franklin pedal, dropping 5 and 6 , this is 3...
then release it, going back to the open A chord. This is 4.
An excellent resolve for a single measure phrase which ends on the A chord, like at the end of a song.
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CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website
Last edited by Tony Prior on 12 Dec 2015 2:08 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 12:19 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
Tony, I started putting tape "flags" on my pedal rods to make it obvious when a pedal moves.
It is kinda hard to see them move. |
I hear ya Lane, seeing is one thing, I agree, but many times we are trying to listen for something that we are not familiar with. On records when we hear phrases, it's hard to see the RED pedal flags ! 
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Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 12:28 pm
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| Tony Prior wrote: |
| Lane Gray wrote: |
Tony, I started putting tape "flags" on my pedal rods to make it obvious when a pedal moves.
It is kinda hard to see them move. |
I hear ya Lane, seeing is one thing, I agree, but many times we are trying to listen for something that we are not familiar with. On records when we hear phrases, it's hard to see the RED pedal flags ! |
So, use yellow flags instead. I hear you can see them even on recordings.
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Howard Steinberg
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St. Petersburg, Florida , USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2015 12:55 pm
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The Franklin pedal can be used with good effect as a substitution for a IV chord resolving to a I chord. Think in terms of the bridge on Dale Watson's "Honky Tonkers Don't Cry."
The change that goes IV to I (3 Times) is really nice with the Franklin pedal used for the second time. If you listen to the song this "may" make sense.
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Pete Nicholls
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Macon, Georgia, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2015 5:48 am
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Thank you Tony Prior, I will be studying your application of the Franklin pedal. Once I get a good example in my head, I hope to be able to apply it in other ways as well.
Thanks again!
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Justice The Judge SD-10, 2007
Justice Pro Lite SD-10, 2011
Quilter Steelaire
Quilter Labs Tone Block 202 Head
Roland Cube 80-XL
American Stratocaster - Yamaha Bass Guitar
1 Fender Telecaster Nashville Edition
Ham Call: N4BHB |
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James Sission
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Sugar Land,Texas USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2015 7:18 am
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Pete, I got a Justice coming in February. The 4th pedal was 150 dollar option, which I am getting. For 20 bucks, Paul Franklin will send you a lesson that teaches how he uses the pedal. He goes into:
Type of chords with what string combinations
He demostares I to IV chord uses and phrases (anything you can play forward you can also play backwards)
He teaches licks/ideas
He explains how to simulate other raises
He teaches how to use it over the minor chords
He explains the diatonic range of the pedal(very interesting)
How to use it with the E lowering lever
The he teaches how to incorporate it in some common songs.
I am not a salesman for Paul, but the money was well spent in my opinion. Its far more information than I have been able to find searching here. Something you might consider. |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Cody Angel
From:
Nashville, Tn
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Posted 14 Dec 2015 1:35 pm
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I have it split between a pedal and lever. Lower 6 on lever, B's on pedal. I use the lever a lot more than both together, but I love having the whole thing at my disposal. Mostly, I use it with E's lowered. I like to sort of "boo wah" the 5th string between 1 and flat 7. The PF lesson is really great for deciding/ learning to use the change. He does some sneaky things with it on "Bakersfield" (end of Branded Man solo comes to mind).
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Rick Vizzi
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2015 3:46 pm
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| Hey Tony, they (your youtubes) sound great, I especially like "I Can't Help..." i recognize the change now, i heard it in Paul's playing in Martina's album "Timeless" but didn't know it was that pedal change, at least it sounds like it. Thanks! I'll definitely learn to use it. |
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Rick Vizzi
From:
New Jersey, USA
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Posted 15 Dec 2015 6:27 pm
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| Greg, I listened to your files of Franklin licks too, they sound really good! Thanks! |
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