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Topic: Cinddy Cashdollar C6 strings for 26" Steelmaster |
Ed Baker
From:
Connecticut, USA
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Posted 30 Nov 2015 7:19 am |
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Hello all,
Like many, I've suffered with string breakage on my 26" scale Stringmaster when using a 0.010 string on the high G of a C6th tuning. This is the tuning Cindy Cashdollar uses in her Homespun Tapes course.
Her recommended gauges are:
56 46 36 28 26 18 14 10
I tried an experiment using the SIT set S71058 seven string guitar set and added one string. This was originally produced for George van Eps.
Here's the S71058 stock set with xx representing the extra string:
58 46 36 xx 26 17 13 10
I purchased a separate 0.028w for the fifth string.
It tuned up quite well and the SIT 0.010 PowerWound G string didn't break.
Maybe it's a fluke, but I'm going to try it a few more times.
Ed Baker |
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Larry Phleger
From:
DuBois, PA
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Posted 30 Nov 2015 12:59 pm
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| I attended a Jeff Newman seminar once. He recommended using a .012 string for the E9th chromatic third string. This string is tuned to G# open and is raised to an A with a pedal. I had some reservations about this as I always had used a .010 for that change, and it broke frequently under normal use. I tried the .012, and to my surprise, it sounded better and broke much less frequently than the .010. The scale length of my pedal steels are around 24.25", but the string is raised a half step higher than the high G on a C6 non-pedal. You may want to consider giving the .012 a try. |
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Larry Phleger
From:
DuBois, PA
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Posted 1 Dec 2015 10:00 am
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| I made a mistake. The G# is raised a whole step higher than the G on the C6 tuning. Sorry about that. |
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Robert Zaporzan
From:
Honolulu, HI
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Posted 3 Dec 2015 8:03 am
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| Ed: Cindy's string gauge recommendations are for a shorter scale. When I spoke to her in Honolulu a few years ago, I asked her about this, as I have a 26" scale Stringmaster as well. Basil Henriques can steer you to the proper gauges, or you could just use a C13 that does not require the high G, eg low to high: G, Bb, C, E, G, A, C, E. There are sites such as John Ely's that list suggested string gauges, but again, these are for a shorter scale. A range is listed for each string, so go light, or go home, lol. Hope this is helpful. |
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Adam Nero
From:
Wisconsin
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Posted 3 Dec 2015 11:48 am
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| Robert Zaporzan wrote: |
| Ed: Cindy's string gauge recommendations are for a shorter scale. When I spoke to her in Honolulu a few years ago, I asked her about this, as I have a 26" scale Stringmaster as well. Basil Henriques can steer you to the proper gauges, or you could just use a C13 that does not require the high G, eg low to high: G, Bb, C, E, G, A, C, E. There are sites such as John Ely's that list suggested string gauges, but again, these are for a shorter scale. A range is listed for each string, so go light, or go home, lol. Hope this is helpful. |
Yeah she's only ever played the 24.5" Stringmaster so far as I know. But if he's trying to adapt those suggested gauges to a longer scale, and is worried about breakage, shouldn't he go heavier rather than lighter?
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2 cheap dobros, several weird old lap steels, and one lifelong ticket to ride on the pedal steel struggle bus. |
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Stephen Abruzzo
From:
Philly, PA
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Posted 3 Dec 2015 12:13 pm
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The rule of thumb is.....the shorter the scale the heavier the gauge. The longer the scale, the lighter the gauge.
There's a chart that shows the recommended gauges for various scale lengths.....just can't find it. |
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Adam Nero
From:
Wisconsin
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Posted 3 Dec 2015 12:16 pm
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Hm. Sometimes my brain gets things backwards.
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 3 Dec 2015 7:14 pm
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I think guys with the early 26" SMs used A6 tuning for that very reason. Noel Boggs, for one. And note that the long scale only lasted for a couple years.
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My rig: Infinity and Telonics.
Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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