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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2015 2:09 pm    
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Anybody ID this old speaker? It's out of my old 60's Silvertone 1482. 12" 8Ω.

I'm thinking of having it reconed as the paper has some breaks in it. I'm using a Celestion 90 in place of it, but would like to use the original if it's feasible to repair. It's also a lot lighter weight.

Any ideas for repairs, costs etc.?

Thanks JO.




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Chris Boyd

 

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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2015 3:02 pm    
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If it sounds good,I wouldn't do a thing...you can always get shoo-goo at Walmart for the paper cone or do the paper towel/glue fix... couldn't find that EIA code anywhere..maybe someone else can determine the manufacturer..
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2015 8:39 pm    
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Thanks for looking Chris. Yeah, I repaired a couple places, but a couple more popped up. I think it got wet at some time and maybe the paper in the cone was compromised.

Best I recall, it's been a few years, it sounded OK at the time.

The celestion is a lot heavier and it's taking it's toll on the flimsy baffle board.
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Chris Boyd

 

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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 5:49 am    
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Not sure if the baffle can be removed with screws like the old Fender amps,but I've replaced a few particleboard baffles with birch ply...Larry Rodgers in Naples,Fla. does great work and ages the grill cloth...mounting a heavy speaker like and EV SRO (25 lbs!) is no problem...
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 6:06 am    
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Jerry--some research turns up speaker id of "special design Jensen" on one site and "Fisher" on another with images showing the same/similar speakers. Maybe Fisher was a badge on a speaker made by Jensen.

Here are my sources:

http://uniqueguitar.blogspot.com/2013/12/1960s-silvertone-amplifiers.html (scroll down)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzreN7KKtc
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 7:48 am    
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Wow! Thanks Jon. That's the one. I appreciate all the time spent locating this stuff for me. I'll mark these sites for future referral. Now I'll have a much better idea when deciding how to proceed. I'll re-install and check it out again.

Chris, I've forgotten for sure, but I believe changing the baffle has some issues and entails pulling out the whole grille/front of the amp and I just didn't do that. But I might in the future if I can be sure that I can restore it to original config.

Thanks again, fellows.
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Stephen Cowell


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 8:12 am    
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1056 shows to be a Fisher...

http://www.thespeakershop.com/speakerrepair/eiacodes.html

Nothing special, IMO... an alnico Weber would work, but if you want the ultimate tone (and are made of bux) I'd put a Celestion Blue in it. As you said, the baffle won't like it (it's heavier than a normal Celestion) but for 20w and below nothing beats a Blue.
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Michael Butler


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 9:40 am    
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i have a 1482 also and it has the same fisher speaker in it. most came with either jensen or fisher. i really like the one in my amp.

the tele forum has quite a bit of info on the 1482 including replacing the speaker and baffle as well as other possible mods. here is a link to the tdpri, tele forum.

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/search.php?searchid=13180503

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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 10:26 am    
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Lots of helpful information here. Very Happy

One of the downsides of using the Celestion is that the cabinet is so narrow that the mag hits the back. I had to space it out 3/4" in order to get the back on.

Plus, like said, the weight is hard on the baffle and it makes for imbalance. Just last night someone just lightly bumped it and it fell over which only worsened the baffle issue.

I'll patch the old Fisher, put it back in there and re-evaluate the situation. Thanks everybody.
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 12:09 pm    
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" if you want the ultimate tone (and are made of bux) I'd put a Celestion Blue in it"
Some years back, Guitar Player did a shootout of 12 inch speakers. Their conclusion was, "Well, there's the Celestion Blue, and then everything else."
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Jerry Overstreet


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 1:27 pm    
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No, I won't be installing a "blue". I have installed a speaker jack plate so if I need to move some serious air I can hit 'em with this hammer.


At this stage though, I'm just looking for a balance of adequate tools and ease of portability.
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Chris Boyd

 

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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 2:31 pm    
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Serious hammer Jerry !
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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 4:56 pm    
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Jerry... That will NEVER work. Everyone knows you need at least 8 speakers. Rolling Eyes
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Stephen Cowell


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2015 8:52 pm    
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*That*, my friends, is the Silvertone 150 cabinet, with solid-state amp that stows in the back. The amp's not much to write home about, but the speakers were stellar. It runs 5.33 ohms, same config as the Fender Super-Six, but with better (ceramic) speakers. A real sleeper.
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