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Topic: 6th string lowering issue, split tuning |
Paul Stauskas
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DFW, TX
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Posted 25 Oct 2015 10:36 pm |
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Hi guys,
I'm having trouble with my 6th string lower on my GFI Ultra. It will only go down to G#, not to G. It worked fine until I changed strings (same string, gauge). I have backed off the lowering rod and have tried loosening the return spring. I have this setup:
Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
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Jason Lynch
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Essex, United Kingdom
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 1:20 am
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| Many may disagree with this, but try the hole nearer the top of the changer finger. You'll get more movement on the finger for the same amount of rod pull. No reason why it shouldn't lower. Back off the compensator totally, and start from scratch. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 2:16 am
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If nothing has changed except the string, try another, correct gauge, string. The string you put on may have been mismarked.
I use a .020P on my Franklin and the change works OK. My wife's GFI Expo S-10 uses a .020P and it works OK. |
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Marco Schouten
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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 2:32 am
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I never used a setup like this, but shouldn't you in step 2 tune only the knee lever with rod 2?
And in step 3 the pedal and knee lever with the compensator rod?
Anyhow, the adjustment of rod 2 will set the maximum that the string can lower.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 2:54 am
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Marco, if you don't have the raise rod, and tune rod 2 to G, the F# be will flat when you release the B pedal. This is because the tighter a string gets, the more pull it requires to move a half step. So rod 3 pulls the F# back up.
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Lee Baucum
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McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 9:41 am
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| Did you happen to replace a plain string with a wound string of the same gauge? |
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Paul Stauskas
From:
DFW, TX
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 9:44 am
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No, I replaced a .22 plain with another .22 plain (according to the package).
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 10:00 am
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Here's what I would do. Start over.
You didn't say why you changed the string, did it break?
1. Make sure you don't have a loose ball end or other obstruction in the changer preventing your primary lower.
2. Do what Jack suggests by either measuring the gauge of the new string or just replacing it with the known right gauge and tune the open note G#.
3. Back off rod #3 so that it doesn't affect the change.
4. Tune the raise G# to A. No problem?
5. Tune the G# to F# lower.... rod 2. If you can effect that change easily, then proceed to tuning the split change. If not, then you have to figure out what's interfering with the primary raise and lower changes.
When those changes are good, then you should be able to tune the split note and the final lower without any problem. |
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Paul Stauskas
From:
DFW, TX
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 10:09 am
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Thanks Jerry, I will give that a try and report back. I initially changed the string because it was corroded after months of use without wipedowns.
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Marco Schouten
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Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 12:53 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| Marco, if you don't have the raise rod, and tune rod 2 to G, the F# be will flat when you release the B pedal. This is because the tighter a string gets, the more pull it requires to move a half step. So rod 3 pulls the F# back up. |
Lane, thanks for clearing that up.
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Paul Stauskas
From:
DFW, TX
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Posted 26 Oct 2015 11:26 pm
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Problem solved, thanks guys. It was the ball end of the string stuck in the wrong part of the changer. Doh!
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