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Topic: Mullen: Royal Precision VS. G2 |
Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2015 2:08 pm |
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I am a very proud and Satisfied Royal Precision player. I love this guitar and everything about it. I am just wondering what the noticable upgrades are in the G2 guitars? If I were to upgrade to a G2 , would I get a large improvement in tone, sustain, playablility? Thanks a bunch!
Jeff
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Larry Baker
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Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Oct 2015 3:25 pm
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Jeff, can't really answer our question, but I have a G2 and love it. A friend of mine has a Royal Precision and He loves it, so seems to be a personalprefference. Larry
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Pat Heller
From:
Missouri, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Oct 2015 4:07 pm R.p./g2
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Jeff---------
I've played alot of guitars and was an Emmons player for years [still have 2] also 2 ZUMS, anyway my 2002 Mullen HWP is also a great guitar, my PRP was also a fine instrument. I have had the pleasure to play Del's personel--G2. it also was a great instrument. I guess my point being Mullens are quality guitars- no matter what model. Find the model you like and play it.
P.H. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 21 Oct 2015 5:04 pm
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at some point a player has to settle for a good instrument long enough to start making a musical statement, which is more impourtant that the make of the steel.
you can chase after the best forever but you'll never have time to be a musician. |
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Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2015 6:14 pm
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| chris ivey wrote: |
at some point a player has to settle for a good instrument long enough to start making a musical statement, which is more impourtant that the make of the steel.
you can chase after the best forever but you'll never have time to be a musician. |
Well said, Chris. Where's the "LIKE" button?
Love the One You're With. |
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Jeff Metz Jr.
From:
York, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 5:15 am
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I guess that's why buddy Emmons only played one guitar throughout his career...... 
Can nobody answer this question?
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 5:46 am
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Jeff, I'd say the increment between the RP and the G2 are more mechanical than in tone or sustain, and I don't know if I'd call them big.
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john widgren
From:
Wilton CT
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 6:25 am G2
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Buddy played many brands of steels over his career. Five minutes worth of search would bear that out.
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 6:31 am
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If you contact Mike at the Mullen factory, I believe he would give you an honest evaluation and comparison between the models.
I believe there's already some info that Del posted right here in the forum archives somewhere...and maybe on the website. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 6:35 am
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| Jeff Metz Jr. wrote: |
I guess that's why buddy Emmons only played one guitar throughout his career......
Can nobody answer this question? |
buddy learned to play the first steel he ever had.
are you comparing yourself to buddy now? |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 6:46 am
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For what these things cost I would think the mfg's web site should include a detailed list of features by model. Features like split tuning, changer enhancements, options, etc in a matrix just like Amazon.com or most car manufacturers do. The feature matrix is a great selling point and a very compact way to communicate model differences. Jeff's request is totally reasonable!
This list took me just a few minutes to type up for my MSA:
Msa Legend Features
Quadruple raise, triple lower changer
Metal necks
All wood maple body
42 pounds (with 8 floor, 8 knee levers)
Modular quick change slide in – slide out pickups
Quick clamp and release leg attachment to pedal rack
Monogrammed guitar cover included
Highly polished metal surfaces
Long sustaining tone
Crystal clear harmonics
3D Fretboard milled into neck – nothing to come unglued – anti-static material in fret pools
Inlaid front and back aprons
Quick adjust pedal height from playing position
Pedal rods are all identical – no more searching for rod numbers
Pedals are 2 7/16†apart and 11/16†wide
Case has built in wheels and 2 handles (Texas Case)
Case has full back hinge and all aluminum edging
Leg and Rod pouch included
Foam damping on underside cuts rod noise
Adjustable raise return spring tension
Knee lever tilt adjustment
13 position stainless steel quick change bell cranks
Split tunings on all strings – adjustable at end plate
Deluxe tuning wrench included
Custom Sperzel tuners have individual shaft lengths for better alignment with nut
5 Year warranty against defects in materials and workmanship
Carbon fiber contoured knee levers
Stainless steel pull rods and cross rods
Pedals machined from aluminum billet and custom engraved
Pedals rods are attached and pull from centerline of pedals
7 piece raised CNC MSA logo on front apron
Solid, polished pedal bar CNC machined from 6061 aluminum
24“ Scale
My guitar has Truetone pickups (both are 16.9 Kohms)
Floating neck - the neck is firmly anchored only at one end (the changer end) while the other end has space and freedom to expand or contract inside the roller bridge. The roller bridge is not attached to the neck, but to the cabinet. The aluminum necks can expand or contract at will without resulting in detuning.
String spacing is 11/32" at changer and 17/64" at nut
Overall body size is 32" long and 10 7/8" wide
"Cabinet drop" is 1.5 cents, measured by tuning E9th 4th string to 440 on Peterson strobe tuner then pushing pedals 1 and 2 and noting the drop against the tuner. Within 0.1 cents I got this number over and over again. Note: This is EXTREMELY low "cabinet drop" for a wood bodied guitar!
Nut roller composition is different for wound and plain strings on both necks to provide evenness of tone between them
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 6:50 am
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| it took me more than a few minutes just to read it! |
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Hamilton Barnard
From:
Oro Valley, Arizona (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 7:36 am
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I own both. The differences are so close that it's almost irrelevant.
I know...that was a big help.  |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 7:53 am
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where and how much do you play, ham?
are there alot of steel gigs in the surfing capital of california? |
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Hamilton Barnard
From:
Oro Valley, Arizona (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 8:31 am
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| I'm a terrible player but a good collector. Having this equipment spread all over the house helps my low esteem. |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
Over there
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 8:58 am
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| It does seem that the RP is the low guy on the totem pole. One guy told me that he would play his old Emmons, if the alternative was a RP. My own pre-RP lacked sustain--Above the 10th fret was where I noticed it--But above the 12th fret, there was nothing. Up to F, to get away from the node, wasn't any better. I doubt if I'll get another new guitar. The G2's look pretty good, though. I haven't played one--But they're building a fine-looking guitar. |
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Matt Teske
From:
Seattle, WA
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 9:07 am
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I also own both a RP and a G2, both Universal's.
The playability on them is fairly close. They both have very smooth pedal and lever action and solid stops. These are the main differences for me:
-Pedal spacing (not much, but you cannot interchange pull rods on account of this)
-Splits in the changer on the G2 (extra pull rod method on the RP, unless you have a tapped changer)
-Different Pickups (of course, you could put any pickup you like in there)
-Changer 3 up 3 down on G2, 3 up 2 down on RP
-Lots of mechanical improvements on the G2 (bent crossrods, changer fingers, etc...)
I love them both. They do have different sounds, on account of the pickups, but I like to have a few tonal options. I think they are both solidly built and play great. If you don't need a lot of splits, or more room for lowers, I think you would have what you need with the RP. You could get a few different pickup options and see how you like them, and save a considerable amount of money over buying a new guitar. These Mullens are very much worth the price, though, imo. |
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Larry Baker
From:
Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Oct 2015 5:48 pm
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Tommy White owns and plays both. If Tommy see's this, he could give you a great comparison..
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Mike Mantey
From:
Eastern Colorado, USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2015 9:11 am I'll chime in
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The G2 was designed to give the guitar a better top end over the 12th fret. It is a more balanced tone all the way up and down the neck.
The note separation should be much more noticeable on the G2.
The Sustain should be at least 30-40% better over the RP. The tones are similar however different due to the pickups and construction. My honest thoughts are while you have been playing an RP when you sit down to a G2 it should just make you say WOW. It is going to play very similar but you should notice everything I mentioned in seconds. That's my opinion.
Mullen G2 Features
• All Quality Hard Rock Maple Body
• 24 ¼†Scale
• Triple Raise/Triple Lower Changer
• Split Tuning in the Changer (all strings)
• Super Precision Aluminum Changer
• Highly Polished Hardened Changer Rollers
• No-break Changer String Slot (catches broken string end; no pin)
• Polished-Chrome Plated Steel Endplates (over 30 year mirror finish)
• Neutral Changer Stop Position with adjustable stops on all Knees and Pedals
• Adjustable Knee Lever Tilt/Angle
• Custom Wound Mullen Pickups with Adjustable mounting plate
• Solid Construction complete with 6061 Aircraft Aluminum
• Made, Designed, and Engineered in Our Own Shop in the USA
• Easy, Clutter-Free Undercarriage, with Removable Bell cranks, Cross rods, and other Components.
• Easy to Maintain and Change Setups
• Adjustable Return Springs with Raise Assist
• Adjustable Chrome Legs
• Hand Crafted Lacquer and Mica Bodies Made In-House with Computer Technology
• Highly Polished Trim and Components
• High Tolerance Brass Nut Rollers
• Ball Bearing Bushings in the Undercarriage
• Sleek Body Design
• No Castings or Pot Metal
• No Slip Hex Cross Rod System
• Floating Undercarriage (will adjust to different humidity changes)
• Rock Solid Stops
• Numbered Hook and Quick Ball Joint Disconnect Pedal Rod System
• Quick Slide Pedal Bar Attachments
• Over 40 Years in Business, Family Owned and Operated, and hoping for over 40 more years.
• Most of All Precision and Tone! |
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Tyler Hall
From:
Mt. Juliet, TN
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Lee Dassow
From:
Jefferson, Georgia USA
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Posted 23 Oct 2015 2:45 pm
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Well there you go Jeff. You heard it from the man you need to get yourself a mullen G-2. T.L.
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 23 Oct 2015 7:47 pm Re: Mullen: Royal Precision VS. G2
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| Jeff Metz Jr. wrote: |
If I were to upgrade to a G2 , would I get a large improvement in tone, sustain, playablility? Thanks a bunch!
Jeff |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 24 Oct 2015 3:57 pm
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| I've been happy(make that very happy!) with both my Mullens-an early to mid-'70s S-10 and an '06 RP U-12.The G2's are pricier,but if I get another steel a G2 is what it'll be.IMO a full-on professional steel guitar is one of those long-term investments you make only a few times,so it should be the very best you can afford. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 24 Oct 2015 4:32 pm
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keep in mind, as mike m. makes perfectly clear, whatever new development is currently being hyped, there's probably something better coming along to take it's place.
that brings us back to finding a basicly good steel and having your musical expertise being the deciding factor. |
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Ned McIntosh
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 25 Oct 2015 2:41 am
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A large improvement? I doubt it. You'll get out of it what you're capable of getting out of it, no matter what brand of steel you play.
Here's a way of looking at it which may strike a chord (pun intended!):-
Think of the Royal Precision and the G2 as being the steel-guitar equivalents of the 308 Norma Magnum and the 300 Winchester Magnum. If you have one, you don't need the other - no matter which of the two you actually have.
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