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Topic: Looking For Some Suggestions For "Franklin" Pull |
kbdrost
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Prospect Heights, IL
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Posted 13 Aug 2004 7:12 pm |
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Yeah, I know, which one?.... I recently had the change installed that pulls the 1st string up a whole step and the 2nd string up a half-step. This give sort of a "second" AB pedal change, only on strings one and two. Maybe there have been some earlier posts on this subject, but I'm looking for some ideas for using it. I've already come up with a few and am curious as to how other people are using this change. If it makes a difference, I have this on my LKR knee lever.
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Ken Drost
steelcrazy after all these years
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kbdrost
From:
Prospect Heights, IL
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Posted 19 Aug 2004 7:20 pm
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Haven't had any help on this in a week. Some of you guys ought to know wht I'm talking about and at least if there are any prior posts dealing with this.
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Ken Drost
steelcrazy after all these years
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 19 Aug 2004 9:10 pm
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| If you use your "A" pedal with that pull with string #5, the B to C#,then you have a 2nd "B"&"C"pedal as well. |
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Sidney Malone
From:
Buna, TX
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Posted 19 Aug 2004 9:37 pm
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One way to use it as a lick is in the open 5 position:
Pick your 3rd string then 1st string, engage knee lever then release, kill 1st string, pick strings 4,5,&6 individually and press A&B pedal when you pick the 6th string. All this is done with the same timing.
It makes a nice intro or fill for a slow/medium ballad and carries you from a 5 to a 1 chord. In the open 1 position it will take you to a 4.
Hope this helps.
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MSA Millennium S-12U
Fessy S-12U
Walker Stereo Steel, Hilton Pedal
[This message was edited by Sidney Malone on 19 August 2004 at 10:40 PM.] |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 20 Aug 2004 6:55 am
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Ken, it's kinda hard to just say "Use it this way"..
I am clearly not the worlds authority on this subject but I use these changes as part of my fundemental playing now. When I practice I use them with many many phrases to see which work and which don't. I also use them together along with the second string natural and second string lowers for additional phrasing .
I think you just need to plunk around , engage them , see where they fit see where they don't..find some common phrases that allow the use of them and roll with it. Seat time is what it takes.Start with simple phrasing and work from there.
I think if you lined up 50 players that use them we may just find 50 different approaches.
I don't use these changes to build chords..I don't even care what chords they build...I use them to seek passing phrases as well as melody line embellishments..if that makes any sense.
It's not magic..it's practice and apply..
good luck
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Charles Turpin
From:
Mexico, Missouri, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2004 7:54 pm
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Frost there are several things i do with them strings that way. ALong with the B and C pedals they make small scale. I find this very effective in speed picking cause just by using the 2nd string as the root with the Band C pedal down. pick the order of 2,4,1,3 at the third fret this will give you a G, A ,B,C notes with out every moving a knee or pedal. I use it in Day dreams about night things of Ronnie milsap. Because upi can get the minor to major change there. The G#s in unison is ver useful in a lot of songs all the way from Designated drinker all the way to Mike Johnsons solo on Monster rag.On that same change i have the 7th string raising to the G# as well. I like this cause along with the A and B pedal this gives you a very beautiful Major seventh chord to work out of.
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