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Topic: Quick (please) Is a Peavey Black Widow 1203-4 good? |
Tom Quinn
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 8:31 am
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I will buy this speaker -- Peavey Black Widow 1203-4 Speaker 12", 4 ohms ASAP for my 112 if it is a high quality speaker.
Comments please. _________________ I need an Emmons! |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 8:40 am
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Should be fine. Hang on to the Blue Marvel because many people say it's about the best match. _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 8:43 am
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Thanks Lane, just got off the phone with Mike Brown at Peavey and he said the same thing. There's a pair of those Black Widows on craigslist for 30 bucks a pop; thought it might be an upgrade but I guess I'll pass... _________________ I need an Emmons! |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 8:51 am
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At thirty bucks, you can't go wrong.
Are you dissatisfied with the sound of the 112? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Tom Quinn
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 9:34 am
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Tommy White wrote some years back that changing the speaker really improved the tone. I'll have to look it up and see what speaker Tommy recommended. _________________ I need an Emmons! |
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Philip Mitrakos
From: The Beach South East Florida
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 2:52 pm
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It was an eminance neo sspeaker..and a mod reverb tank
I bought 1 of those nashville 112's once ..did everything you could do to it ..telonics speaker mod reverb.. fox IC chips.. beam blocker..stuffed a steel guitar black box in the back ...was no big deal ...sold it ..
Back to the nashville 1000 fox chips telonics speaker 2 -1/4 inch layers of AC foam filter behind the grill cloth ..and its,sounds pretty darn good ..cant beat 300 watts thru a 15 inch speaker ..and the telonics speaker dropped about 10 pounds off the 57 pound amp ..got a removable back on the amp too covered in foam rubber ...
I really do wish there was a compromise to a 15" and less weight amp ... |
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Kerry Johnson
From: the Bay Area, CA
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 5:09 pm Bw 1203-4
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Wow $30
This vintage of BW 1203 is worth $100 bucks.
you should buy it, try it and if your not pleased,
you should be able make a profit selling it.
It also can used for guitar, keyboard, or monitor.
These BW 1203 are solid as a rock and almost impossible to blow. |
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David Higginbotham
From: Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 6:54 pm
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1203 is the 12 inch version of the 1501 and they are great speakers. I used them for a few years and really liked them. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 27 Aug 2015 9:51 pm
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how are they different from a 1201? |
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Kerry Johnson
From: the Bay Area, CA
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 2:37 pm
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The 1201 and 1203 speakers have similar frequency responses however ...
the 1201 speakers were made with Kevlarâ„¢ impregnated cones which sound different and were intended primarily for sound reinforcement.
Kevlarâ„¢ has a unique sonic signature. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 29 Aug 2015 2:44 pm
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aren't all speakers for sound reimforcement? |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From: Gallatin, TN
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Posted 1 Sep 2015 7:55 am
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Kerry Johnson wrote: |
the 1201 speakers were made with Kevlarâ„¢ impregnated cones which sound different and were intended primarily for sound reinforcement. |
The 1203 speakers also have Kevlar in the cones. If I recall correctly, none of the all-paper cone Black Widows are still in production.
I used to have a pair of 1203-8s and they have a different character than either the 1203-4 or the 1201-8. The difference on paper was subtle, but in the real world, it was night and day. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 1 Sep 2015 8:41 am
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Jonathan Cullifer wrote: |
I used to have a pair of 1203-8s and they have a different character than either the 1203-4 or the 1201-8. The difference on paper was subtle, but in the real world, it was night and day. |
yeah but which way?i have a 1201-8 that sounds fine.
which of these three do you think is best suited to steel? |
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Kerry Johnson
From: the Bay Area, CA
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Posted 1 Sep 2015 2:20 pm Peavey 1203 speakers
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Hi Jonathan,
The more current production run from Peavey do use Kevlarâ„¢.
https://reverb.com/item/317398-peavey-1203-8-bw-12-steel-guitar-speaker-8-ohms-700-watts
However....
These are the 1990's vintage production run of the 1203 speakers and they don't have Kevlarâ„¢ cones....according to peavey's documents.
Here is the LINK:
http://assets.peavey.com/literature/manuals/80300801.pdf
The magnets and basket are also visibly different.
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Chris,
Comparing the 3 together side by side would be the only real way of comparing them in the same Steel-pickup to Preamp section to Poweramp.
The older vintage production all should sound good, but as in all Forum opinions, your mileage my vary.
The paper-cone 4 ohm 1203 has more high treble that needs to be rolled off.
the paper-cone 8 ohm 1203 is smoother in the high treble and these 2 'paper-cone versions' sound Hmmm ... similar. |
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Larry Behm
From: Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 5 Sep 2015 8:12 am
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I have put them in several N112's they sound great. Buy them soon. _________________ '70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
Phone: 971-219-8533 |
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Jonathan Cullifer
From: Gallatin, TN
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Posted 5 Sep 2015 11:28 am
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Chris,
To my ears, the 1201-8 sounds the best, but it is obviously a personal preference. I sold my 1203-8 baskets to a steel player who wanted them. |
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