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Topic: What's your favorite bar slant? |
b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 11:03 am |
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What bar slant(s) do you use most often on pedal steel guitar? I'd like to expand my knowledge by learning what others are doing.
(Please don't reply if you don't do slants.)
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 1:31 pm
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For the 7th chord that people make with the F lever, I use a reverse slant.
On the C6th neck, I'll sometimes use a corner slant instead of hitting either P5 or P6.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 1:35 pm
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
For the 7th chord that people make with the F lever, I use a reverse slant.
On the C6th neck, I'll sometimes use a corner slant instead of hitting either P5 or P6. |
What strings, Lane?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 1:42 pm
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F lever? 8,6,5
P5? 2,3,5
P6? 3,4,6
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Craig Baker
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Eatonton, Georgia, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 2:43 pm
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b0b,
Here's a link to some of my favorite slants. All by Buddy Charleton and all in one clip.
http://picosong.com/uAXq
The first is the intro to "Half A Mind" He grabs a forward slant for the 4th chord of the intro.
Next is a reverse slant from "The Waltz You Saved For Me". It's the last chord the steel plays before the lead guitar begins.
Finally a pretty ending to Norma Jean's version of "It Keeps Right On A Hurtin" The first four chords of the five-chord ending are a reverse slant. The second and fourth chord are with the B pedal down.
Interesting to note that during this era, Buddy Charleton never raised his Es, but did some beautiful slants.
Craig
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Gordy Rex
From:
Southport, NC
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 3:20 pm
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Bob G7 to C
strings 3 and 5 A pedal
frets 3 and 4
resolve to fret 3 A and B pedal...
I use this a lot sound good and looks cool...
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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W. Van Horn
From:
Houston, texas
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Posted 17 Aug 2015 9:53 pm
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| Gordy - that's a great one. Paul Franklin sometimes resolves that G7 slant to a c9. 3 and 5 with A pedal on frets 3 and 4 to strings 3 and 5 A + B pedals fret one. Going from G to C dominant leading to F. |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 18 Aug 2015 4:57 am
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For those of you who don't know what I mean by "corner slant", that's using the way the bar turns a corner at the tip to hit the top pair of strings at the same fret, while putting the Thicker string on a lower fret.
If you put the nose of the bar hitting strings 3 and 4 at the 7th fret, and the middle of the bar fretting string 6 at the 6th fret, you get a C7th chord, like hitting p6
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John Davis
From:
Cambridge, U.K.
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David Donn
From:
New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 18 Aug 2015 5:43 pm
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I like this one.
Em7 (G and D) to A (A and C#)
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1---8~7
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3---
4---
5---8~8A
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 19 Aug 2015 10:01 am Might fine playing there Dale
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| Having learned my pedal playing way back when Bud Issics was the man......I find your playing and bar usage to be exceptionally fine. Lots of great sounds. I truly enjoyed hearing your play. |
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Bent Romnes
From:
London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 19 Aug 2015 6:41 pm
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Wow, Dale, I never realized what a fine player you are until just now!
Thanks for posting The Old Rugged Cross
I subscribed to you on youtube.
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Dale Rottacker
From:
Walla Walla Washington, USA
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Roger Guyett
From:
San Francisco, Ca.
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Posted 21 Aug 2015 4:10 pm
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Bob - I'm trying to incorporate more slants too....here's a simple
one (you probably know this one already)
From any "no Pedals" chord position on strings 6, 5 and 4....forward slant 2 frets on string 4 and hit the A pedal (string 5 therefore slants one fret forward)....you'll get the 7th chord. It's actually the 9th, 7th and 3rd of that chord position. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 23 Aug 2015 12:35 pm
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i was transcribing some endings today and found this gem by lloyd green, from "lovesick blues" on charley pride in person.
you can accomplish this with knee levers and no slant but it doesn't have the same ring to it, and isn't really as fun.
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Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2015 6:40 pm
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I don't really have a favorite. Just whatever gets the job done. After studying Byrd and Joaquin who taught me a lot about slanting - I just started trying to play what was in my head and slanting when I had to to achieve the necessary combinations. The most challenging ones are the ones that sound like staggered split pedals,the ones with twin resolves or the ones that sound like a raise and a lower together on two strings.
Some examples on 8 string A6 on my favorite guitar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqYJKYWtbVw |
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George Redmon
From:
Muskegon & Detroit Michigan.
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Posted 25 Aug 2015 10:05 pm
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| I love bar slants, kind of a lost art i s'pose. I love doing the few i do. My Dad was from the old school. He played bar slants on every steel he played. Pedal & non pedal alike. I'll never touch his, but i sure enjoy the old reel to reel's of him doing them, just excellent. |
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Daniel Policarpo
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Posted 26 Aug 2015 3:57 am
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I don't have the double lower on my second string , so I slant to get a unison sound on this take-off type of lick…
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MY steel works with 3 pedals and 4 levers so I use slants all over the place, but I like getting that second string in there like that. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2015 7:40 am
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Very cool example, Daniel. Now I have an answer for those who say they need the full step lower on the 2nd string. Usually it's for unison licks like yours.
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