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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 5:45 am    
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So after doing some reading I have now found out that Arpeggios are used in blistering Jazz playing. Thanks @AndyVolk.

They don't reveal secrets easily. Ahh well. That being said.

A quick google search gave me loads of great info. The question now is....

Is there a comprehensive Jazz guitar book that covers ALL/most jazz guitar techniques used for approaches to chords/soloing/melodies etc.

It just seems silly otherwise that I have to keep finding out piece by piece that another technique is out there I've never heard of that can really help ones playing .
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 6:05 am    
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There are zillions of such books. Google 'em up.
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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 6:19 am    
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Structured lessons really help you learn these things in order.

You are going to have to seek learning materials apart from steel guitar. Steel guitar materials are there to help in the mechanical, technique, stylistic, and visual aspects of playing. To learn the things you are seeking, you need to study materials written for piano, guitar, horns, etc. Jazz learning materials haveto be absorbed and adapted by you for your instrument.
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Steve Knight

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 6:54 am    
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You may not want to buy a book(s) that covers "ALL/most jazz guitar techniques". One problem with books is that you can read and comprehend many more things than you will be able to incorporate into your playing for awhile.

Is there a specific tune you're trying to learn? What type of jazz do you want to play? What artist's soloing do want to emulate? (Django, Louis Armstrong, Coltrane, Ornette Coleman, smooth jazz?) "Jazz" means a lot of different things to a lot of people.

It may be more helpful if you listen to a lot a jazz that you like, learn a tune you like inside and out (chords and melody), and practice varying/improvising the melody on that tune (on your guitar, and singing in your head.) If you want to improvise using arpeggios, start very simple--take a "solo" playing the root of every chord in the tune, then take a solo with only the third of every chord, then the 5th, etc. This exercise will help you learn some theory, your instrument, and your ear. It helped me a lot. Another helpful exercise it to do this in only one "position" (i.e., frets 0-3, or 4-6, whatever) OR only on one string for each solo. This was very helpful to me.

It's also helpful to learn some theory and apply it to your instrument--not modes, but "what notes are in a C chord and where are those on my guitar? etc" I pointed out modes because this is often approached by beginners to jazz, and I think it should be put off until you're a pretty advanced player.

I spent a lot of wasted time and money trying to absorb "every" approach to jazz when I made the most progress by doing what I said above. I hope this post is helpful. This is what I would do if I could go back and learn it all over again. Keep in mind I'm sitting in front of a computer now and not on the road as a pro jazz musician...
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 7:01 am    
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Check out Jazz guitarist Mimi Fox's book on arpeggios. It's excellent. Things are clearly explained using well known standards but one needs to put in the work to translate the arpeggios from guitar to Lap steel.

http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Arpeggio-Studies-Jazz-Standards/dp/0786671998
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Ulrich Sinn


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 8:21 am    
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If you're asking for guitar:

I find all Randy Vincent books very comprehensive and modern in approach.

http://www.amazon.com/Jazz-Guitar-Voicings-Vol-1-Drop/dp/1883217644/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1439914859&sr=1-1&keywords=randy+vincent

If asking for steel: maybe the Joaquin Murphey transcriptions are still available.
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Andy Volk


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 10:32 am    
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Mike Neer now sells the Joaquin book. JM (like Django, Benny Goodman, etc) based a lot of his licks on arpeggios.
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Stefan Robertson


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 12:52 pm    
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You guys are awesome as usual. So much knowledge. Will have a chance to practice tomorrow morning. Can't wait. Thanks all will definitely look into some of the books.
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Brian Evans

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 1:36 pm    
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Listen to some Benny Goodman - he played a lot of arpeggios. Just about any bebop - the arpeggio's got higher into the partials. Listen to the clarinet in any New Orleans style traditional jazz - they play all the changes in arpeggio. Don't just listen to guitar players.

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Steve Knight

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 1:43 pm    
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I need a "like" button for all of these comments!
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Ron Funk

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 3:35 pm    
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FYI, quite a few of classic Allman Bros tunes & instrumental solos are arpeggio inspired.
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George Piburn


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 3:44 pm     The Jazz Theory Book Mark Levine
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A Best Book is called The Jazz Theory Book by Mark Levine on Sher Publishing.

It was suggested to me by my jazz guru mentor Ernie Watts , who told me that Mark was a Tonight Show Piano player in the X Band with Ernie and so many other greats.

Mike Neer is an Excellent Resource for the type of books and studies you are looking for.

Any Thing you can find from Maurice Anderson is right down the alley for you, and for listening and more , any of the Tom Morrell Time Warp Ranch Hands.

I am certain there will be plenty of other suggestions in this thread.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2015 3:48 pm    
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+1 on the Levine book, as long as you can read music.
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