Repadding a steel seat.

Austin Tripp · From: Nashville TN

What is a roundabout price to have my steel seat repadded? I've had it for 8 years now and it feels like I'm sitting on a very uncomfortable piece of plywood. Also, is there a particular type of padding to use? I'm gonna check with some upholstery shops but I just wanted some opinions first! Thanks
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

An upholstery shop quoted me $75 assuming the fabric wouldn't survive, but it "might be possible to reuse it, in which case it'd be less, of course."
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chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

my old sho~bud seat got that way, but i just pulled the staples holding the vinyl ...put in a new chunk of foam rubber and restapled it.

Doug Palmer · From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA

I bought some nice faux alligator skin at Hobby Lobby for my guitar pad. They have several types of black vinyl to choose from and foam padding too. Go to their website and you might get a coupon as well. Great place to shop.
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Steve Schmidt · From: Ramsey, MN, USA

Just learned this one not too long ago. Go to a carpet store and buy some rubber pad they put down on the floor before they put the carpet down. I like that way better than the foam you can buy from the store. Buy that 3M 77 stuff and glue as many layers together as you wish.

Dick Wood · From: Springtown Texas, USA

I had mine done at a place that does mostly cars and boats. He used the material that cars and boats use and it's held up great after 10 years. He charged me around $60.00

He put on some foam around 5" thick and when I sit down it expels air for like 10 seconds but feels real nice on those hour long sets.
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Scott Duckworth · From: Etowah, TN Western Foothills of the Smokies

Dick, are you saying you have "air brakes" when you sit down? Very Happy

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Jack Stoner · From: Kansas City, MO

Both the foam cushion and covering really need replacing.

I had a Steeler's Choice seat "bottom out". I couldn't get the same type of foam so I called them and had a replacement seat made. I don't remember how much it was but worth it. You have to remove the old seat and install the new but not that much of a job.

W. C. Edgar · Posted 7 Jul 2015 6:38 pm

The only seat that will NOT bottom out (under 250 pounds) is the www.steelseat.com seat. I designed these seats when I started the company about 2000. Don't use just any foam, the stuff I used was 1 1/2" thick and called something like 140# foam which meant it took something like 140 pounds per square inch to compress it some certain amount and I got it directly from the pouring plant that manufactured it and NO you can't buy it at a craft store or a Wal-Mart. When I started the business I went through and tested over 15 different tension's of the same thickness of foam. I haven't talked to him but I'd call Ed Naylor at Steelseat and buy a piece from him and recover it yourself. It's not that hard and all you need is a air stapler capable of shooting some good staples into the plywood while you hold it tight. That was a big problem of all the other brands including Sho-Bud that after part of a set all of the air went out of the foam and you were sitting on the board.
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

140 is dense stuff.
Most of the time, foam is measured in weight per cubic foot (most couch foam is around 2 pounds).
Stiffness (and this is probably the scale you're using here, since the average seat uses about a quarter foot, and I can't see a seat with #35 of foam in it) is how much weight it takes to compress it to 60% of its thickness (I'm not sure of the area size tested). 140 is pretty stout.
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W. C. Edgar · Posted 7 Jul 2015 7:58 pm

I figured someone would start some kind of arguement with me on this.
I stated what I used on the steelseat.com seats when I built them and he probably still uses the same great but expensive foam on them.
Yes it is pretty stiff but still as some give to it. A 250 pound rear end sitting in one place for a 45 minute set will compress the hell out of cheap craft store foam.
Now I just remembered why I don't post on the forum anymore.

Bobby D. Jones · From: West Virginia, USA

Check with Health Supply Facilities. They stock seat pads for rental wheel chairs. Jay Basics makes a pad about 2" thick and 18" X 18" with top molded to fit your touchÃ©. Cut to fit seat top. They are built to spend 16 hours a day in.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

WC, I wasn't arguing. I was more like saluting the stout choice of foam.
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Rick Barnhart · From: Arizona, USA

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Dick Wood · From: Springtown Texas, USA

LOL...It does sound like Air Brakes Scott.
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Bill Ferguson · From: Milton, FL USA

Austin, I did mine with layers of carpet pad. Used the same seat cover and it worked fine. Took me about an hour on a Steelers Choice seat.
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John Billings · From: Ohio, USA

I got foam from the upholstery shop. Told the what I needed it to do, and took their suggestion. Easy job to do. I also use a sheep's wool pad doubled over on top. It lets some air flow, is very comfy, and keeps your fundament from sweating!
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Bob Mainwaring · From: Qualicum Beach Vancouver Island B.C. Canada

I made my seat many years ago using 2 fold-in legs made from plywood, best thing I did regarding not to use individual metal legs.It also has a removeable box inside which I keep all my spare stuff including strings, a couple of bars etc.
The top of the seat I used an old bed-pillow that was placed under the black "fiction leather" turned under at either side surrounded by hammered in brass round topped studs with a stud placed directly centered in the top of the seat.
It's been just "fantastic" over the many years, about twenty, and hasn't given me any problems whatsoever.
Not being too overly bragging, I've been asked a few times where I bought it from. Very Happy

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Malcolm McMaster · From: Beith Ayrshire Scotland

Still got the seat WC built for me about ten years ago, it is as good as the day I got it, probably last another 10 years.Great seat.
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Joe Naylor · From: Avondale, Arizona, USA

W C must have forgotten my name Smile

I get calls all the time for foam - the foam I use is cut for me and I seldom have any extra. I, at one time, sold foam but finally decided that I would not sell parts for anything except steelseats.

I just sat on a seat W C made in Dallas last year and that guy was more like 300# - I did not ask - he said he plays at least 200 or so gigs a year -- that cushion is still in good shape.

I have had people ask for soft foam and have talked all but 3 out of it. One I put soft foam on top of my foam for a couple. The soft foam lasts about 3 to 6 months with lots of use. I checked one recently that was 6 months old and could feel the plywood.

I have many many customers that tell me that my foam is very comfortable.

I will repeat I sell only parts for steelseats. Sorry

I have had several calls asking for foam, legs, hinges and latches which always total up to more than a new seat.

Joe Naylor
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Glenn Uhler · From: Trenton, New Jersey, USA

When I was working, I visited several upholstery and foam cutting shops. They both recommended using at least two grades of foam in a seat. At least one inch of firm foam on the bottom (so you don't bottom out) and at least one inch of softer foam on the top (to keep the seat comfy for long gigs).
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Jim Keeney · From: Brownwood, Texas, USA

W C I bought a seat from you way back when and it is still in great shape.

Drew Pierce · From: Arkansas, USA

I recently sent my Steeler's Choice Easy Rider seat back to the factory in Texarkana to have it reupholstered. Dan replaced the foam and fabric on the seat and back for $60 plus about $8.00 USPS Priority Mail return shipping.

It took me about 30 seconds with an electric screwdriver to remove the seat: six screws in the piano hinge that hold it to the "box" and one screw/nut that fastens the little gadget that keeps the seat upright when open. Putting the refurbed seat back on the box took another 30 seconds or so and it's now like a brand new seat. Dan turned it around in about a week. You just can't beat that for service and value.
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Joe Naylor · From: Avondale, Arizona, USA

First, I do not sell parts or pieces for any seats other than steelseats because every time I tried it cost me more than I got.

I rebuilt ONE Sho-Bud and that was the last.

However, I have never had to change foam on my seats. I have heard about all kinds of solutions and ideas for foam.

I have not changed and still buy it from the same place
W. C. bought it. That foam is one of the things the really makes a comfortable seat.

Joe Naylor
steelseat.com
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