| Author |
Topic: The Great Equalizer |
Norman Boling
From:
Paragould Arkansas, Philadelphia TN USA
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 4:03 am |
|
I keep this picture on my wall when I practice. Not that I can play any better, but it helps me keep the basics in perspective.
  |
|
|
 |
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 4:35 am
|
|
| I'm having to guess; is it Jeff Newman? |
|
|
|
K Maul
From:
Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 4:40 am
|
|
Joking? It`s Thomas Jefferson..
E9 with 3 and 3. |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 4:47 am
|
|
Not kidding; respectfully, whether the photo is Thomas Jefferson or Norman Boling, I'd like to know the copedent,
because a 3 x 3 E9 would be an equalizer in terms of efficiency and economy, one I'd copy.
It looks like a very clean setup, easy to get around on. |
|
|
|
Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 5:40 am Jeff Newman... Hahaha!
|
|
Poor ole Jeff's rolling around laughing...
That's a Sho-Bud LDG 3&4 being held by the person who came up with the concept I believe, look close you'll see the other knee lever.
Charlie Prides steel player? |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 6:14 am
|
|
Thanks, Dick, yes I'm embarrassed  but could someone please humor me and tell me his name? Wait, I have it, Lloyd Green!
(I can research it on my own with that to find the equalizing components maybe. This was a topic for insiders; sorry, Charlie.) |
|
|
|
Ken Campbell
From:
Ferndale, Montana
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 7:53 am
|
|
| The Master. Simple is elegant. Another example of incredible taste and....restraint. |
|
|
|
Richard Sinkler
From:
aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 10:43 am
|
|
So now, since we know it has 4 knee levers, it's not as impressive as with only 3 knee levers. 
Actually, Lloyd be da man. 
_________________
Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
|
|
|
chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 10:48 am
|
|
where've ya been, charlie?  |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 11:09 am Re: Jeff Newman... Hahaha!
|
|
| Dick Sexton wrote: |
| Poor ole Jeff's rolling around laughing... |
LDG would probably be laughing too.
chris @ school |
|
|
|
K Maul
From:
Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
|
Posted 15 Feb 2015 11:10 am
|
|
My apologies for being a wise guy-
Our Founding Fathers-
GEORGE WASHINGTON
JOHN ADAMS
BEN FRANKLIN?
 |
|
|
|
b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
|
Posted 26 Jun 2015 5:45 pm
|
|
| Charlie McDonald wrote: |
Not kidding; respectfully, whether the photo is Thomas Jefferson or Norman Boling, I'd like to know the copedent,
because a 3 x 3 E9 would be an equalizer in terms of efficiency and economy, one I'd copy.
It looks like a very clean setup, easy to get around on. |
This is Lloyd Green's copedent. It's actually 3+4, but the changes are minimalist.
| Tab: |
# note LKL Ped1 Ped2 Ped3 LKR RKL RKR
1 F# __+G________________________________________
2 D# ________________________________-D/C#_______
3 G# _____________+A_____________________________
4 E ___________________+F#____+F________________
5 B _______+C#_________+C#______________________
6 G# _____________+A_____________________________
7 F# ____________________________________________
8 E __________________________+F___________-D#__
9 D ____________________________________________
10 B _______+C#__________________________________ |
_________________
-𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
|
|
|
Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 12:48 am
|
|
In the first photo I count 3x5
_________________
Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 2:03 am
|
|
Zooming in, the middle shaft seems to be a dummy.
Maybe the setup is called 3x3 because one of the knees he typically never used. Anyone know?
I imagine he could get around well on a 3x2 and find it interesting that he raises E->F on LKR.
This guy must be pretty good, whoever he is. Love the loafer.
_________________
Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
|
|
|
Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 2:25 am
|
|
Charlie, looking at the linking rods and reversers, I see 3&4. From left to right, the cross-shafts under the neck connect, in order, to: RKR; RKL; LKL (with linkage); LKR; P3; P2; P1.
_________________
2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
|
|
|
Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 2:51 am
|
|
I see the linkage now. Thanks, Lane.
_________________
Those that say don't know; those that know don't say.--Buddy Emmons |
|
|
|
Edward Rhea
From:
Medford Oklahoma, USA
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 3:27 am
|
|
Neat thread.
Here's a thread that I searched. Seems the "D" in LDG isn't an initial of Lloyd's? Also, I've heard, that the term "loafer", refers to another brand of PSG that is a SD10 from another builder(not Sho~Bud)? Any truth to that?
http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum15/HTML/000276.html
Thanks. |
|
|
|
Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 3:56 am
|
|
| I believe the "D" is for his wife's name, Dot if I remember correctly. |
|
|
|
chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 6:58 am
|
|
| alright, let's all go home and study up on our history now. come back next year for the test. |
|
|
|
Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 9:20 am
|
|
Yeah, this thread is pretty amusing, really. I truly hope Lloyd looks in!
I had not seen that photo of Lloyd and the up skirt… it is indeed inspiring. I never tire of or lose my amazement at the sheer musicality and beauty of what Mr. Green can pull out of that setup. The true intersection of art and genius.
_________________
Stop by the Steel Store at: www.markvanallen.com
www.musicfarmstudio.com |
|
|
|
b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 1:58 pm
|
|
| Lloyd Green (via email) wrote: |
Actually, rather than viewing the changes on my set-up being minimalist, once I found the E-F change around 1966 or’67, I instinctively felt they were complete because now I could play anything I could mentally conceive relative to the E9th tuning.
Prior to the E-F change the tunings “incompleteness” often led me into dead-end zones from which I had to extricate myself.
However, one could legitimately characterize my changes as “minimalist” considering all the additional, but duplicative and redundant, pedals players have added since the 1960s. I did, and do, use the term “minimalist country” to describe the Don Williams sound though. |
_________________
-𝕓𝕆𝕓- (admin) - Robert P. Lee - Recordings - Breathe - D6th - Video |
|
|
|
Dan Robinson
From:
Colorado, USA
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 2:27 pm
|
|
Emmons. |
|
|
|
Edward Rhea
From:
Medford Oklahoma, USA
|
Posted 27 Jun 2015 3:07 pm
|
|
Thanks Dan!
I just wanted to get my facts straight. There's a test next year...  |
|
|
|
