older Hilton P ?

Steven Welborn · From: Ojai,CA USA

I've got the older Hilton pedal with the big hoggy transformer plug. Anyone know if this can be converted to smaller plug version along with adding the more accessible tone control?

Tom Campbell · From: Houston, Texas, USA

Hi Steve,

I've been wondering the same thing. There doesn't seem to be much interest in the topic. We surely can't be the only two that would be contemplating a conversion.

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

i would try emailing member keith hilton.

put his name in the 'search' and you'll find a post where you can click on his name, bring up his profile and click the email link.
i've heard he is very helpful.

Steven Welborn · From: Ojai,CA USA

thanks Chris... will do.

i agree Tom.... seems odd.

Keith Hilton · From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721

I will try to answer your questions. Here is some history. I have been building these pedals for over 18 years, with over 20,000 out in use world wide. I built the pedals with the attached power supply up until 2008. From 2008 until the present, all my pedals have a plug in power supply. I personally still use an old pedal--made in 2004--- with an attached power supply when I go play a show. Those power supplies that were attached to the pedals were medical grade power supplies. Motorola quit making them. If I could get a similar one it would cost around $160.00. Now back to why I still use one of my old pedals with an attached power supply. I don't forget to bring the power supply, I don't lose the power supply, and I don't plug in the wrong power supply. The power cord is heavy and stiff, and difficult to wind up, but a 400 pound fat drummer can trip over it and it won't break it. I can convert a pedal that has an attached power supply to a plug in type power supply for $88.00. This cost covers parts,labor,the new power supply, and return shipping within the United States. The conversion work involves work on the circuit board as well as changing plug connections. Hope this information helps.

Steven Welborn · From: Ojai,CA USA

thanks for the reply Keith. The other part was re the tone control, but actually this older model has the screw set underneath which is the same thing, just not as convenient. Then again, I've never needed to mess with it. think I'll keep as is.

Drew Pierce · From: Arkansas, USA

I have both an old and new type Hilton pedal. I carry the new one in my pack-a-seat and leave the old one at home for practice. They are virtually interchangeable as far as performance goes but I like the packability of the new one for gigging. (Except once, like Keith says, I plugged in the wrong power supplies and it took me a couple of nervous minutes before a show before I figured out why neither my VP or my delay pedal were powering up.) Rolling Eyes

Frankly, before I spent nearly $100 retro-fitting an old pedal with the new PS, I would get a new pedal and keep the old one for practice or back-up spare. Works for me. Wink

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Drew Pierce
Emmons D10 Fatback, S10 bolt-on, Zum D10, Evans RE500, Hilton volume and delay pedals.

Tony Glassman · From: The Great Northwest

I have one of each and I prefer gigging with the older hardwired power supply. I agree with Keith it's more durable and it is never forgotten.at home. For me, the packing inconvenience is only a mild annoyance

Drew Pierce · From: Arkansas, USA

Tony Glassman · From: The Great Northwest

Drew, I'm into the "small n light" thing too. I recently sold off my rack system and bought a Quilter head to use through a single BW 1501 with a neo mag. My back is already thanking me.

How are you liking the Earthquake pedal? I keep going back-and-forth between it and the Wampler Faux analog delay. I like the Earthquake because of it's combined reverb/delay capability. I can set the amp reverb low for fast tunes, but be able to add more reverb plus delay for slow ballads with the pedal. On the other hand, the Wampler has a warmer, pseudo analog sound that is definitely sweeter. The jury is still out, but so far I'm leaning a bit more towards the Wampler. Maybe I'll just have to keep them both ...... At least for a while

Drew Pierce · From: Arkansas, USA

We're lucky to have so many options now. The amazing thing is that they're nearly all good. Of course that's bad for the wallet and can be bad for marital relations. Laughing

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Drew Pierce
Emmons D10 Fatback, S10 bolt-on, Zum D10, Evans RE500, Hilton volume and delay pedals.

Tony Glassman · From: The Great Northwest

Fortunately, all stomp boxes are small, rectangular and festooned with garish paint jobs, knobs & buttons. It makes it hard for a disinterested wife to tell a new one apart from any of the others.

Keith Hilton · From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721

Drew there is a big steel guitar jam session this coming Sunday in Branson. It is at the Stone Castle Inn. You should attend. I am going to try and play. It is always a interesting jam, with a good band and some really good players.

Drew Pierce · From: Arkansas, USA

Hey, thanks, Keith. I just might try to get up there. What time does it start?
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Drew Pierce
Emmons D10 Fatback, S10 bolt-on, Zum D10, Evans RE500, Hilton volume and delay pedals.

Keith Hilton · From: 248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721

June 21, Sunday afternoon, 1-5 pm. The place is: Stone Castle Hotel, 3050 Green Mountain Dr. Branson, Missour. It will be good to see you again Drew.

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