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Topic: Source for Push Pull Parts? |
Geoff Queen
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Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 9:25 am |
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I am in need of some pedal stop screws for my Emmons P/P. Any ideas? Contact info? Thanks
Edited: I also need a treble side 'butterbean' tuner. Thanks
Last edited by Geoff Queen on 29 May 2015 11:51 am; edited 1 time in total |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 29 May 2015 9:43 am
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| if you have one on your steel, take it off and go to the hardware store. ask the guy working there, 'do you have some of these?' |
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Geoff Queen
From:
Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 11:49 am
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| Thanks Chris, but I would prefer to have OEM Emmons parts. I foresee needing future parts as well, so a more emmons-centric source would be helpful. |
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chris ivey
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california (deceased)
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Posted 29 May 2015 12:02 pm
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| alrighty. however, an allen-head machine screw of the appropriate size is just that. |
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Tony Glassman
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The Great Northwest
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Posted 29 May 2015 12:39 pm
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Chris is right.
The only difference between an OEM Emmons pedal stop socket cap-screw and one you buy at Ace Hardware, is that Emmons buys them in bulk and you're buying yours individually |
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Geoff Queen
From:
Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 12:51 pm
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| Ok...fair enough. Thank you both! Any ideas on tuning keys? |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 29 May 2015 12:59 pm
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| Correction: The pedal stop screws on both my push pull & LG II are treated with Nylok. That helps with slippage. So I guess you probably won't find them at Ace Hardware. |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 1:32 pm Nyloc Screws
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| Tony Glassman wrote: |
| Correction: The pedal stop screws on both my push pull & LG II are treated with Nylok. That helps with slippage. So I guess you probably won't find them at Ace Hardware. |
Geoff,
My friend, Tony is correct.
I have what you need but I'm out of town until later next week. If you can get in touch with my friend, Billy Knowles, he'll probably be able to fix you right up.
http://steelguitareast.com/
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Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
http://www.steelguitarwest.com
Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
ZumSteel Authorized Service Technician
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 5:03 pm
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Are you asking for the old Nylok screws with the nylon strip set into the milled channel, or the later Nylok with the red locktite type stuff painted on the threads? Or the screws with the springs over the threads to keep the screws from vibrating out of adjustment.
I may still have some of the Nyloks with the nylon inserts.
The above describes the stop screws Emmons used after they went away from the screws tapped into the stop bar rather than tapped into the pedal crank..
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Geoff Queen
From:
Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 5:20 pm
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Thank you for that contact, Lynn.
Chris, my guitar is an early 70's brown badge fat-back (S-10). The current pedal stop screws have no springs or locktite, and I haven't heard of Nylok before. Sounds like I have some research to do. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 5:40 pm
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Are they cap Allen head screws that appear to have a skinny strip of nylon that runs the length of the threads? With age, the nylon insert falls out, but a milled slot would remain.
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Geoff Queen
From:
Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 29 May 2015 6:37 pm
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They ARE allen head cap screws, but they don't have milled slots. Upon further inspection they DO have a yellow locktite- looking substance on them. This was less noticible earlier when I wasn't looking as closely.  |
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Tommy Detamore
From:
Floresville, Texas
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Posted 30 May 2015 5:25 am
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Chris you got me to wondering what I have on my '69. I took a close look at the original screw from the 9th pedal that was removed, and it has the milled channel with the nylon insert. I had no idea. I thought it was a standard cap screw with goop of some kind plastered on it. I guess I need to get my eyes checked again...
I learn something every day 
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Quilter Labs, Goodrich Sound, Source Audio, Neunaber Audio, and Stringjoy Authorized Dealer
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Drew Pierce
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 30 May 2015 5:32 am
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Non-locking (blue?) LockTite can be applied to any hardware store cap screws and you get the same effect.
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Drew Pierce
Emmons D10 Fatback, S10 bolt-on, Zum D10, Evans RE500, Hilton volume and delay pedals. |
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 30 May 2015 6:05 am
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You can also get an allen head or phillips head screw and use an appropriate nut to lock the pedal stop screw. Not stock but I find a phillips head screw is more user friendly.
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Martin Weenick
From:
Lecanto, FL, USA
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Posted 30 May 2015 6:59 am Thread Locker
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From McMaster/Carr you can get the red thread locker like Emmons uses. It's called Vibra Tite. A one oz. bottle costs $21.70 (part # 75145A69) it's more than enough for 50 guitars. Also you can get a .17 oz. tube for $3.68 (part # 75145A68) I use it on the split screws on my changers. Hope this helps. Martin.
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 30 May 2015 8:23 am
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Geoff, I have a few of the screws with the red thread "lock" on them and I have some used Kluson keys. If you would like you can email me at rollermusic@cox.net and I will try to help you.
Jerry
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 30 May 2015 8:44 am
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Geoff Queen
From:
Austin Texas, USA
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Posted 30 May 2015 10:47 am
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Martin, thanks for that info. I think I'll grab a bottle of that to have on hand.
Jerry, i'll send you an email, thank you.
Thanks to all for the help, it's appreciated! |
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