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Scott Swartz


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St. Louis, MO
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 11:24 am    
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I am looking for some input on the copedent for a 4p/6k SD-10 E9 tuning, specifically what to do with the 6th knee lever.

Here is what I have so far

_________LKL1___LKL2____LKV____LKR_____P1_____P2_____P3_____P4______RKL______RKR_____
1__F#___-CMP___________________________++G#_______________________________________________
2__D#____________--C#____________________+E____________________-D_________________-D_______
3__G#___________________________________________________+A_____-G__________________________
4__E______+F____________++F#___________________________________________-D#_________________
5__B_____________________________-A#____________++C#_______________________________________
6__G#___________________________________________________+A_____-G__________________________
7__F#___________________________________++G#_____________________________________+G________
8__E______+F___________++F#____________________________________________-D#_________________
9__D______________________________________________________________________________-C#_______
10_B_____________________________-A#____________++C#_______________________________________



My main question is whether there is something useful to combine with the 6th knee lever I show above, LKL2, D#-C#. I hate half stops, which is why I am not using RKR to go D#-D-C#.


things to note:
-Home position (pedals AB)is pedals 2 and 3
-I purposely don't have a C pedal, I prefer the G#-G change I have shown on pedal 4 in its place. I can also pedals 2,3 plus LKV for the C pedal change.
-pedal 1 is the F#-G# change that is becoming near standard
-everything else is pretty normal

I wanted to get the D#-C# on the copedent for the unisons and also the pentatonic scale when combined with E-D# lever, but maybe others will see something I am missing.

[This message was edited by Scott Swartz on 22 June 2004 at 12:29 PM.]

[This message was edited by Scott Swartz on 22 June 2004 at 12:31 PM.]

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David L. Donald


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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 11:56 am    
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I'd put the Franklin pedal 0 on P1
and put the P1 G# E changes on a lever.
I see there is no C pedal.

But I do like what you have here.
I have your P4 minor 7 on a lever,
because you can change from AB down to a minor much faster.

The s2 s9 C#s could be easily gotten with 2 half stops on RKR as well as 2 D's.
Like RIcky Davis just put on his LDG.

I am not really sure about your LKV??
Is that sort of part of a split C Pedal?
I find the B to Bb there very usefull with AB down.

I am sure Carl D. will have some interesting comments shortly.

[This message was edited by David L. Donald on 22 June 2004 at 12:58 PM.]

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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 12:20 pm    
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Looks a lot like mine.

I like having the 9th string lower on the C# lever, so that it doesn't interact with the F# to G change. Also, I often want both the 2nd and 9th strings to be C# when my E's are lowered.

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Bobby Lee


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Cloverdale, California, USA
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 1:45 pm    
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FWIW, Scott, I would swap P1 and P4 if I were you. As you have it now, P3 and P4 pretty much cancel each other out.

[This message was edited by Bobby Lee on 22 June 2004 at 02:46 PM.]

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Bengt Erlandsen

 

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Brekstad, NORWAY
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 2:40 pm    
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Since you might not be able to play both LKL's at the same time one idea might be to lower the 7th string F# to F along with 2nd string Eb-C#. The 9th string can also be lowered to C# at the same time.
Beatiful 9th voicing available w RKL E's to Eb at the same time.

Bengt Erlandsen
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Scott Swartz


From:
St. Louis, MO
Post  Posted 22 Jun 2004 9:27 pm    
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Thanks for the ideas, I am getting specs together for purchasing another steel, something smaller, lighter, faster to set up than my D-10 Sierra Session.

No need to mention brands I am looking at, we don't need this to turn into a "my steel can beat up your steel" thread.
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Drew Howard


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Post  Posted 1 Jul 2004 11:27 am    
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I had a Fessy SD-10 w/ 4 + 6, the 4th pedal lowered the 5th and 6th strings a whole tone, and the 6th knee lowered both G#>G.

Drew

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C Dixon

 

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Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 1 Jul 2004 2:31 pm    
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LKL
A B C 4 LKL LKV LKR RKL RKR

F# G# G
D# E D/C#
G# A
E F# F Eb
B C# C# A Bb
G# A F#*
F# G#
E F# F Eb
D C#
B C# A Bb


*NOTE: split with the B pedal

OR:



LKL
A B C 4 LKL LKV LKR RKL RKR

F# G#
D# E D/C#
G# A G
E F# F Eb
B C# C# A Bb
G# A G F#*
F#
E F# F Eb
D C#
B C# A Bb

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 01 July 2004 at 03:35 PM.]

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Fred Justice


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Mesa, Arizona
Post  Posted 2 Jul 2004 6:36 am    
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Hey Scott,
I sent you and Mr. Dixon a e-mail with attachment of my rather strange SD-10 4X6 set up,i dont know how to put it here on the forum,but someone may be interested in seeing it.I've played this set up now for about 22 years,works for me .
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Fred Justice
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C Dixon

 

From:
Duluth, GA USA
Post  Posted 2 Jul 2004 7:42 am    
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A very nice gentleman and forumite sent me the following:

Hey Mr. Dixon,
I dont know how to put this on the forum,thought
you might put it on for me.
Im attaching my SD-10 4X6 set up,its kinda werd
but someone may want to see
it,worked for me 22 years now.Thanks.

Fred Justice
Events Dir.
SWSGA

So here 'tis Fred:


LKL
1 2 3 4 LKL LKV LKR RKL RKR
F# G#
D# E D&C#
G# A G
E F Eb F#
B A C# Bb
G# F# A G&F#
F# G&G#
E F Eb
D C#
B A C# Bb


Thanks for your contibution Fred. May Jesus bless you always friend,

carl

[This message was edited by C Dixon on 02 July 2004 at 04:07 PM.]

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